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"This is the first time in this country where singing hymns, praying, and reading biblical passages have been described as 'hate speech' and 'fighting words,'" said Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family Association Center for Law and Policy.

And given what is happening in Canada and Sweden, it won't be the last, now the the USSC reflects on overseas court rulings to make its decisions.

1 posted on 02/08/2005 4:03:32 PM PST by gobucks
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To: gobucks
"Sodomists repent. You're going to hell,"

That doesn't sound much like what Fahling was describing.

2 posted on 02/08/2005 4:06:39 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: gobucks
"Sodomists repent. You're going to hell,"

That's not a hate crime, that's a love crime. To be silent would be a hate crime. Or to say "It's ok, everybody's doing it. You are completely normal." and let them burn in hell. That would be a hate crime.

3 posted on 02/08/2005 4:07:24 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: gobucks

Just remember that the incineration of Branch Davidians at Waco by Bent Willie and Reno was not, repeat not a crime.


4 posted on 02/08/2005 4:09:35 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: gobucks
This is one that has to go to the supreme court - then we can be done with it. (and they will be acquitted)
5 posted on 02/08/2005 4:09:49 PM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K; little jeremiah; gobucks

ping


6 posted on 02/08/2005 4:09:56 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: gobucks

You beat me to it. Exactly. We can only expect more of the same.
Should we care? Yes. Should we be discouraged? No. Christ said, Mark 13:9, "You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them."
What better way to get the message of Good News out then getting this publicity on air,in newspapers and on TV?


7 posted on 02/08/2005 4:20:35 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: gobucks

Here in Chicago, what is not being discussed in the media is how a homosexual in a vicious rage repeatedly ran over a Muslim cab driver. Could the cab driver have said something to the homosexual about his sexuality?


www.suntimes.com


http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-cab08.html

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Taxi suspect's 'life was totally on track'

February 8, 2005
BY ANNIE SWEENEY AND LISA DONOVAN Staff Reporters

As friends could tell, Michael L. Jackson had hit a good stride in life.

He was dating and had a good job with the city doing the work that mattered most to him -- helping people with AIDS.

So how could Jackson -- a well-known fund-raiser and activist in Chicago's gay community with a service award in his name -- kill a 61-year-old taxi driver by commandeering the cab and repeatedly running him over, as police claim?

'Absolutely shocking'

"He is very mild-mannered, he is very funny,'' said Greg Harris, who works for Ald. Mary Ann Smith (48th) and knows Jackson as an activist. "Of all the people you would never think would be involved in anything like this . . . It's just staggering. Absolutely shocking.''

On Monday, Jackson, 37, was ordered held without bond at Cook County Jail, and his job as a director with the Health Department was terminated.

In a brief court appearance, Jackson appeared expressionless, wearing jeans and a brown suede coat as prosecutors said that he argued on the street with Haroon Paryani and then got behind the wheel of Paryani's Koam taxi after the cabbie fell face-down on the street. He then drove back and forth over the body, prosecutors said.

Jackson has not given a statement to investigators, but police have said several witnesses saw the attack last Thursday in the 500 block of West Briar Place, the same block where Jackson lives. A woman rushed to Paryani's side to cradle his head but ran off after seeing the taxi's reverse lights flash on and the cab headed back toward them, prosecutors said.

Jackson's attorneys said they planned to argue Jackson attacked Paryani in self-defense after the two fought.

"The facts will show the victim was the aggressor,'' said Jon Erickson.

Paryani's boss has described him as courteous. Paryani, a taxi driver for about 20 years, was sued in 2001 for fatally striking a pedestrian, but a jury later found in his favor.

Jackson was one of the early volunteers with a group that would later become the Hearts Foundation, an organization dedicated to HIV/AIDS issues. Jackson helped incorporate the organization and served as board president four years ago, said Todd Armbruster, Hearts vice president.

After leaving Hearts, Jackson remained a source of help and support, Armbruster said. The foundation created a service award in his honor three years ago, Armbruster said.

Jackson also worked for KPMG, a nationally recognized public accounting firm based in Chicago, until 1997.

Jackson was hired by the Chicago Public Health Department in 2003 as director of STD/HIV/AIDS public policy and programs because of his work in social service, said department spokesman Tim Hadac.

There have been some recent troubles in Jackson's life. He filed for bankruptcy in 2002 after amassing as much as $104,000 in debt, records show. Records also show there was a stop put on his Illinois driver's license because of a 2002 accident in which he failed to show insurance or compensate the other person in the accident.

What would 'make him snap'?

Still, many friends said they saw no hints of serious trouble.

"I pray to God that there is some sort of explanation,'' Armbruster said. "Everything in his life was totally on track. He had a love interest, a great job. I couldn't even imagine anything that would make him snap.''

The charges against Jackson also baffled the Paryani family, which spent the weekend mourning a man who moved to Chicago from Pakistan in 1971 and worked as a taxi driver to support a wife and four children.

"I was shocked at the kind of job he is holding,'' said Asfar Moin, Paryani's brother-in-law. "No laws allow you to kill anybody in any circumstances.''

Contributing: Stefano Esposito


8 posted on 02/08/2005 4:23:10 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: gobucks

Wow, this seems to happen EVERY SINGLE DAY in Philadelphia! (At least based on how many times I've read articles in regards to this topic on FR)


10 posted on 02/08/2005 4:33:10 PM PST by richmwill
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To: gobucks

I don't care that these folks were a bit over the top. This is religious persecution by the Thought Police, pure and simple. Nothing they did even comes close to warranting any charges.


11 posted on 02/08/2005 4:36:38 PM PST by montag813
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To: gobucks

are they being charged with refusing to relocate or are they being charged with content crime?

What does the USSC say about protesters across the street from abortion clinics?

Seems that IF they wanted to do this by the book then the homos would have been impotent to stop them.


14 posted on 02/08/2005 4:50:02 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: gobucks

They are not being charged with disturbing the peace, a misdemeanor, but hate speech, a felony. This is a big difference from the usual treatment of protestors. What I don't understand is why burning the flag is not hate speech.


16 posted on 02/08/2005 5:01:39 PM PST by sportutegrl
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17 posted on 02/08/2005 6:10:42 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: gobucks

bttt


20 posted on 02/08/2005 6:18:31 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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