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A Frightening Message from Inside Islam - (wake-up, America!)
CHRONWATCH..COM ^ | FEBRUARY 8, 2005 | BARBARA J. STOCK

Posted on 02/07/2005 9:41:02 PM PST by CHARLITE

A few weeks ago I received an e-mail message from a man who called himself “Tim.” He explained that this was not his real name. “Tim” was using this name so that he could remain anonymous. He needs to stay in the realm of the unknown. Tim is a marked man because he has done the unthinkable--the unforgivable. Tim has left Islam and in doing so, he has become a “kaafir”--an infidel--and an apostate.

According to the laws of Islam, if a Muslim leaves the faith, he becomes the worst of the worst, an infidel, and a traitor. These poor souls might be killed if discovered and so they often must move to faraway cities, change their names and pray that they never run into anyone who knew them in their previous life. As stated in the Quran “Whoever changes his religion [leaves Islam], execute him.” Being forbidden to leave Islam is one of Islam’s dirty little secrets.

With Tim’s permission, I posted on my website his sobering message. When I received it, I thought it was quite pessimistic. Since that time, I have had lengthy conversations with several Muslims that have given credence to Tim’s words. So much credence, that I feel compelled to give his statement a wider audience.

Here is a sample of Tim’s warning to all “infidels.”

“I was born and raised as Muslim. My whole family is still Muslim. I know every genetic code of Muslim. I know Islamic brain. I live and breathe with them. I am an insider. I left Islam when I understood that Islam is a sick and evil religion. Following is the Islamic message to the West. To the infidels of the West: Constitution for the new Islamic Republic of EU and USA is under construction. We will fight the infidel to death.

Meanwhile:

American laws will protect us.

Democrats and Leftist will support us.

UNO will legitimize us. (United Nations Organization)

CAIR will incubate us. (Council on American-Islamic Relations)

ACLU will empower us. (American Civil Liberties Union)

Western Universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us

OPEC will finance us

Hollywood will love us.

Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.”

As ominous as Tim’s warning to non-Muslims is, is it possible that all the dangers he cites would be crushed if moderate Muslims would admit that there is a threat? If these people are truly “moderate” they will be considered weak and will be killed as well. Moderate Muslims seem oblivious to the danger and seem to feel that the mere fact that they are Muslim will protect them. That certainly isn’t helping the Iraqi Muslims.

Perhaps I am being somewhat paranoid, but I have begun to wonder if these “non-violent, moderate” Muslims simply don’t see the danger or are they just remaining silent, biding their time--waiting and multiplying, just as Tim has said. The question is how many are just “waiting?” Tim seems to feel that number is very large. He is in a position to know far better than I am.

Tim continues: “You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us? On the camera: We will always say, ‘Islam is the religion of Peace.’ We will say, ‘Jihad is actually inner Jihad.’ Moderate Muslim will say there is no link between Islam and Terrorism and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible. Moderate Muslim all over the world will incubate Jihadists by their talk by defending Islam. Using Western Legal system we will assert our Sharia Laws, slowly but surely. We will increase in number. We will double again.”

The conversations I have had over the past few weeks bear out Tim’s warning that moderate Muslims swear there is no link between Islam and terrorists. In fact, the first words of those who write to me are usually, “Terrorists are not true Muslims” or “Terrorists are not practicing true Islam.” When I point out the words in the Quran damning all non-believers to hell and the very plain and clearly stated orders to kill all unbelievers, I am told that I am taking the words out of context.

Readers of the Quran may wonder how one can take out of context statements such as: “Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars” or “Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” “Christians will be burned in the Fire” seems rather straightforward to me. Yet, the denials come every day. Then, when I question those that contact me, the outrage follows. It has all become quite predictable.

Non-Muslims must understand the definition of unbeliever. In Islamic terms, it does not mean someone who does not believe in God. Unbeliever means anyone who does not believe and strictly follow the laws of Islam and Allah.

I am told that it is me who is full of hate and that I hate Muslims. Americans hate Muslims and that is why we hunt them down and kill them all over the world. But statements such as “War is ordained by Allah” and “When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell,” it is argued, are not words of hate driving Muslims to kill. No, those words are “misunderstood” and twisted by those of us just do not understand the peace and love that is true Islam.

“Christians hate Muslims!” I am constantly told. Don’t I realize that Jews are the root of all things evil in the world? Israel has waged war on poor Muslims and Arab states for over 50 years. America is just the “slave” of Israel and we do their bidding. The world’s only super-power is a puppet of the tiny Jewish state. Many Muslims tell me this and they absolutely believe it.

There is a constant flow of hate from the Muslim web sites and blogs where the Islamic terrorists in Iraq are still referred to as freedom fighters and martyrs and Saudi officials are claiming that Osama bin Laden was sent by the evil Jews, thus absolving Saudi Arabia and Islam of any guilt for bin Laden’s actions.

I have read the words of many ex-Muslims and though not all are as frightening as Tim’s, they all say the same thing: Islam is not a religion of peace but a source of hate and total domination. Most ex-Muslims that I have read just fear for their lives if discovered. Shouldn’t we unbelievers heed their warnings? They have been in the mosques. They have heard the words of hate and war. Are they not in the position to know the heart of Islam better than we?

There is only one flaw in Islam’s plan--the Quran. The plan for world domination is clearly laid out for the followers of Mohammed, including the punishment that awaits those who fail in their mission. “Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom.” For many who now wage war against us, it is not because they hate us, but because they fear the punishment promised for eternity if they disobey the words of Allah. “Those who deny Allah’s revelations must endure the flaming fire.” If you had heard these words every day of your life, what would you believe?

Tim’s complete letter

About the Writer: Barbara J. Stock is a registered nurse who enjoys writing about politics and current events. She has a website at
http://www.republicanandproud.com/.

Barbara J. Stock receives e-mail at dickens502003@yahoo.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: america; cair; clashofcivilizations; globaljihad; islam; israel; jews; jihad; kofiannan; quran; terror; truebeliever; un; wakeup; worldconquest
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To: NCjim

Mark for later


61 posted on 02/08/2005 6:35:50 PM PST by NCjim
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To: potlatch

Repeat after me! KILL ALL OF THEM!; INTOLERANCE RULES! Do not try to reason, Isolate and eliminate the poison that is their make up!We are faced with only one thing; learn quickly how to identify you enemy and never believe anything they say. They want you DEAD! No Negotiation Possible!


62 posted on 02/08/2005 6:59:01 PM PST by winker
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To: winker

Well, I don't go along with the 'kill all of them' part. That will only happen when they come after me and mine.

Ten years ago I had emergency life saving surgery done by a local muslim doctor who is also head of the Islamic Temple here in my city.

He not only saved my life, he was so skillful that he corrected any bad consequences of that surgery. It is so hard to think of him as an 'infidel' hater and I hope he isn't.


63 posted on 02/08/2005 8:20:07 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: CHARLITE

Thanks for the info!


64 posted on 02/08/2005 9:24:20 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: mhking

btt


65 posted on 02/09/2005 12:28:24 AM PST by lainde ( ...we are not European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: Tatze

bttt


66 posted on 02/09/2005 12:30:30 AM PST by lainde ( ...we are not European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: SJackson

bttt


67 posted on 02/09/2005 1:17:34 AM PST by lainde ( ...we are not European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: old-ager
Clicking on the link to Tim's entire letter simply wacks out my Firefox browser.....
68 posted on 02/09/2005 6:56:23 AM PST by b4its2late (Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
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To: tob2; CHARLITE

"Very scary that Muslims think like this. "

Even scarier that people think that more then a small minority of Muslims think like this ...

It appears that none of the so-called "quotes" that are cited are actually IN the Koran, so it's hard to say they were taken out of context.

... but if CHARLITE wants to persue the course of the terrorist, by promoting fear and distrust between people, I suppose the 1st Amendment lets her do so.



69 posted on 02/09/2005 7:40:14 AM PST by RS (They'll get my warped sense of humor when they pry it out of my cold, dead neurons...)
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; aristeides; Askel5; ...

PING!


70 posted on 02/10/2005 9:19:05 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: old-ager

Scary. I wonder if a nuke dropped onto Mecca would change their minds? I doubt it; it would just create a million martyrs for them.


71 posted on 02/10/2005 9:28:08 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: tob2
Very scary that Muslims think like this. However, evil always caves in on itself. Jesus Christ will prevail and overcome all evil.

How long will that take? One year? One hundred years? One thousand? We certainly cannot afford to wait for Islam to collapse on itself; how many years under Shiarrhea (yes, that spelling is deliberate) must we endure before that happens?

72 posted on 02/10/2005 9:36:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: CHARLITE

A Muslim, an American Indian and a cowboy happened to be seated together on a flight FRom NYC to LA.

The Indian, observing the vast American plains remarked to his companions that "Once we were many, and now we are few."

The Muslim countered with "Once we were few and now we are many."

The cowboy commented that "We haven't played 'Cowboys and Muslims' yet."


73 posted on 02/11/2005 5:36:45 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: RS
It appears that none of the so-called "quotes" that are cited are actually IN the Koran, so it's hard to say they were taken out of context.

Where'd you get that info from. Do you have a Koran? Believe me, it would be a delight to know for sure that Islam is more benign than it appears to be, and that it really is being hijacked. Please share.

74 posted on 02/11/2005 3:43:54 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Here's a site I found that has quite a bit of material.

http://www.submission.org/




75 posted on 02/14/2005 7:39:38 AM PST by RS (They'll get my warped sense of humor when they pry it out of my cold, dead neurons...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The so-called quote - “Christians will be burned in the Fire”

- appears to come from anti-islam sites as an interpretation of a translation of the Koran -

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/5/index.html#72

Drop down on the right hand side to find it.


They appear to come up with their "quote" by using lines regarding unbelievers going to hell, which is basically the same thing as Christianity, isn't it ? I would say most religions have a - God will get you if you don't believe like us - line somewhere in them.

But they want to make it appear as if this is a command from God to his followers to carry out.


76 posted on 02/14/2005 7:49:14 AM PST by RS (They'll get my warped sense of humor when they pry it out of my cold, dead neurons...)
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To: old-ager

bump


77 posted on 02/14/2005 7:51:13 AM PST by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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