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Marine Corps Won't Abandon Gen.Mattis To Please Self-righteous Pundits.
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Posted on 02/07/2005 1:12:11 PM PST by InfantryMarine

"At ease, General Mattis. Your country salutes you, and needs you."

I'd heard of U.S. Marine Gen. Jim Mattis from other Marines over the years and from news coverage of his own exploits. He was the blunt, bachelor general who had served nine tours of duty in the Middle East, including combat in Afghanistan and Iraq.

He was the commander of the 1st Marine Division in the longest, fastest thrust of a division in Corps history -- that dash to Baghdad in 2003.

I knew he wasn't just an officer; he was a leader.

And a fighter.

Not a statesman. Not an orator. No, God love him, he's a fighter.

In the military it has always been true that what you see is not always what you get. The "salad" on the uniform chest often bears closer inspection. It may be the fruit of the career of a gifted bureaucrat, a crypto-politician, a superb manager, or a combination of these.

Nothing wrong with that. Our vast military establishment needs all of the above in varying ways and to varying degrees.

But it also needs leaders who are fighters. Those who will kick down the door. Those who will get the job done. As we have observed here before, all the niceties of democracy and civilization depend from time to time on a few men who will go down dark streets and do uncivilized and possibly undemocratic things we would rather not think about, let alone talk about.

Well, General Mattis talked about it. A little.

It was in San Diego last week, at a conference hosted by the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association and the U.S. Naval Institute. There were lots of military types in the room. They were discussing what changes our military must make to battle terrorists in future wars.

General Mattis pointed out to fellow conferees that, capable as we are of fighting "modern wars," we are having trouble adapting to "historic forms of warfare" brought back by the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The general warned, "Don't patronize this enemy. They mean business. They mean every word they say. Don't imagine an enemy somewhere in the future and you're going to transform so you can fight him. They're killing us now. Their will is not broken."

Of course, General Mattis knows whereof he speaks. He's been there, doing that. And it was while reflecting on this that he made the following remark:

"Actually, it's quite fun to fight'em, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you. I like brawling."

The general then made clear who "some people" are. "You go into Afghanistan. You've got guys who slapped women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

These remarks sent a predictable shudder through the press. A story from The Washington Post news service noted that the general's blunt words had "sparked criticism from military ethicists."

Military ethicists.

At Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's press conference, Thursday, which centered on serious issues like the Iraqi vote and continuing security difficulties, the first question from the press was a fussy inquiry about the "appropriateness" of General Mattis' remarks.

Rumsfeld and Marine Gen. Peter Pace, vice-chairman of the Joint Chiefs, somehow refrained from bitch slapping the reporter and moved on to more important matters.

Marine Commandant Gen. Michael Hagee, to his immense credit, called General Mattis "one of this country's bravest and most experienced military leaders" and noted that he had merely been trying to "reflect the unfortunate and harsh realities of war."

To close the matter, General Hagee said, "I have counseled (Mattis) concerning his remarks and he agrees he should have chosen his words more carefully." (For more on all this from a Marine, check the always superb www.theadventuresofchester.com.)

It turns out there actually are "military ethicists." One of them, Jeff McCausland, director of the Leadership in Conflict Initiative (at Dickinson College, Carlisle, Pa.) called General Mattis' remarks "unprofessional and inappropriate" and noted that they send a "terrible message" to those serving under him.

If any "terrible message" has been sent, it has been by the bombings and butchery of the terrorists and Islamofanatics. These are General Mattis' "guy's like that," who treat women as beneath contempt, gleefully slit throats and behead innocents before cameras, stop buses on lonely roads and execute the young men inside, murder in the streets for the world to see.

It is the civilized part of us that is always a little uneasy with our General Pattons, but in the end most of us cut them some slack. We know deep in our hearts what they really mean. There's a rough and half humorous hyperbole in General Mattis' words -- the language that cops know, and firemen, when they talk among themselves.

But I see an old fashioned gallantry, too, in those words. They are his blunt affirmation that he has fought in a war worth fighting against an uncivilized enemy that deserves to be destroyed. They tell us that he fights with élan and, I think, high purpose.

At ease, General Mattis. Your country salutes you, and needs you.

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1 posted on 02/07/2005 1:12:12 PM PST by InfantryMarine
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To: InfantryMarine
Marine Corps Won't Abandon Gen.Mattis To Please Self-righteous Pundits.

Good.

Semper Fi Gen. Mattis.

2 posted on 02/07/2005 1:13:18 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: InfantryMarine
"We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us."
George Orwell

As true today as it was then.
3 posted on 02/07/2005 1:21:23 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: InfantryMarine

There are those in this country who seem to be unaware that a country maintains its military for only one reason, and it is to close with its enemies and destroy them.

How fortunate for our country that we have such men as General Mattis: Men who destroy our enemies and enjoy doing it.


4 posted on 02/07/2005 1:29:32 PM PST by DJ Taylor
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bump


5 posted on 02/07/2005 1:30:08 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: RaceBannon


Semper Fi! bump


6 posted on 02/07/2005 1:31:51 PM PST by MudPuppy (www.YoungMarines.com)
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To: InfantryMarine

I'm not all that bothered by the pukes who have turned up fuming over Gen Mattis's remarks--we always knew they were there--but it serves to reinforce that Mattis IS there--and a few more like him--that's what counts--and it's so refreshing, to say the least!


7 posted on 02/07/2005 1:33:32 PM PST by gunnyg
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To: InfantryMarine

So, I'm sitting with a bunch of guys at our annual American Legion Superbowl party yesterday, and we started talking about General Mattis.

Greg looks at me and says "he was my General" and smiles. He said that this is just the way he is. Greg said Marine Generals get away with saying stuff like that, but the Army Generals could never. (Gregs brother is an Army Major in Iraq right now, graduated West Point, sibling rivalry)

Anyway, Greg graduated from Annapolis, and was in Iraq for the march to Bagdhad. He was standing around talking with some buddies when the General joined them. They were concerned about the media's portrayal of them and the "peace demonstrations" back home.

General Mattis said "fellas, when you get back home go up to one of them peace hippies, shake his hand and thank him for the opportunity to serve and protect him. Then turn and wink at his girl cause she's gonna know right then that she's with a pu__y, and you'll be in the sack by 10:00."

Man, he made us all crack up with that one, but, again, that's just the way this General is.


8 posted on 02/07/2005 1:58:38 PM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: InfantryMarine

The only people upset about the General's remarks are those who would like to see this country digress into a third world country.


9 posted on 02/07/2005 2:07:25 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: InfantryMarine

Do they expect our guys to go in hating their job? That'd be some kind of crappy military. The left is so limpy. It's just sickening.


10 posted on 02/07/2005 2:09:32 PM PST by AmericanChef
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To: InfantryMarine

General "Mad Dog" Mattis

"Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. ... It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling." He added, "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

It turns out there actually are "military ethicists." One of them, Jeff McCausland, director of the Leadership in Conflict Initiative (at Dickinson College, Carlisle, Pa.) called General Mattis' remarks "unprofessional and inappropriate" and noted that they send a "terrible message" to those serving under him.

err.....It's exactly the right message to send....terrible like in "terrible swift sword"....terrorists take note....I like it. This Jeff McCausland sounds like a pussy.

11 posted on 02/07/2005 2:09:53 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
This Jeff McCausland sounds like a pussy.

Makes you appreciate Dr. Mike Adams's contention that tenure should be abolished. All these academic weenies would melt like the Wicked Witch of the West if they were doused with the competitive job market that the rest of us must live in.

12 posted on 02/07/2005 2:18:10 PM PST by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: InfantryMarine
"Actually, it's quite fun to fight'em, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you. I like brawling."

Hey - the guy enjoys his work. How many of us can honestly say the same?

13 posted on 02/07/2005 8:26:12 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.6)
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