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U.S. Muslims Stalk More Infidels
New York Sun ^ | February 07, 2005 | by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross

Posted on 02/07/2005 4:45:38 AM PST by johnny7

A radical Islamic Web site systematically tracks Christians on PalTalk.com, an Internet chat service on which a New Jersey man received a death threat two months before he and his family were murdered. The password protected Arabic Web site, at the address www.barsomyat.com, features pictures and information about Christians who have been particularly active in debating Muslims on PalTalk.

One page from barsomyat.com features a group of photographs of a Syrian Christian, "Joseph," who now lives in Canada. Barsomyat.com's users have posted personal information about Joseph, including his brother's parole status, and make clear that they are actively trying to track down his current address. Subscribers also post explicit warnings to Joseph. One comment states, "Know, oh Christian, that you are not far from us and you are under our watchful eyes!" Another user remarks, "Laugh, oh Christian, and soon you will see a big hit."

Ahmed Paul, an Egyptian Christian and a theology student in America, said he believes Joseph was targeted because he frequently engaged in debates with Muslims on PalTalk. The Internet chat service attracts up to 3 million users a month, and subjects range from movies to music to religion to adult topics - and some Arabic-speaking users of PalTalk have reported that contentious debates between Christians and Muslims are common in certain chat rooms. Hossam Armanious, a Coptic Christian from Jersey City, N.J., who was found murdered earlier this month, frequently debated with Muslims on PalTalk. Two months before Armanious's murder, authorities said he received a death threat from a Muslim PalTalk user: "You'd better stop this bull ... or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you." On January 14, Armanious and his family - including two daughters, ages 15 and 8 - were found killed in their Jersey City home, bound and gagged with their throats slashed. Authorities have not determined whether Islamic extremists are to blame for the Armanious family's murder, nor is there any apparent link between the murder and barsomyat.com's tracking of Christians on PalTalk. However, many barsomyat.com users expressed jubilation at the deaths. One user posted a photograph of Hossam Armanious and wrote, "This is a picture of the filthy dog, curser of Muhammad, and a photo of his filthy wife, curser of Muhammad. They got what they deserved for their actions in America."

In all, about 40 different discussion threads on barsomyat.com berate the Christians of PalTalk, and there are at least seven collections of photographs of PalTalk Christians. The barsomyat.com discussion threads seem to focus on Arabic-speaking Christians rather than those who speak English. Barsomyat.com features not only photographs of the targeted Christians, but also attempts to track down their addresses. A post about a Christian man whose computer was apparently hacked to obtain his photograph includes the man's PalTalk name, his real name, and the city where he resides in Lebanon. Another barsomyat.com entry outlines the relations (both blood and marital) between four Christians who are apparently PalTalk users, posts photographs of them, and then states, "We have postponed publishing this information because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right." Even barsomyat.com's banner displays its hatred of Christians. The banner displays a crucifix crossed out by a violent red "X," and the main heading reads in Arabic, "Christians: Revealing the Truth Behind Our Belief."

Judging by the posts, almost all of barsomyat.com's users are Middle Eastern, and they are predominantly Egyptian. Mr. Paul said that's significant because the extremists on barsomyat.com live in societies where people simply do not challenge Islam and would never dream of insulting Prophet Muhammad. Mr. Paul, who is an Islamic convert to Christianity, said when Islamic radicals from such societies participate in Internet debates with Christians who live in societies that promote free speech, they are often shocked by the Christians' arguments and view their debating opponents as blasphemers. And in the eyes of Islamic extremists, blasphemers are worthy of death.

Author Robert Spencer, who has been following the Armanious case for his Web site Jihad Watch, described barsomyat.com as "extremely important" after it was shown to him. "I have never seen anything like this before," Mr. Spencer said. "It's chilling to see photographs of people who probably have no idea that they're on the Web site. Hamas's Web site would post self-congratulatory accounts of their attacks on civilians, but barsomyat.com's users are telegraphing their intended victims in advance." Mr. Spencer added that barsomyat.com is a "prime example" of how some Islamic extremists can utilize technology to attempt to bring Islamic religious law to the West. "We saw in the Theo van Gogh murders that some Muslims will take these kinds of matters into their own hands," Mr. Spencer said. "The Internet makes it easier for them to do so by disseminating this kind of information. You could imagine 15 years ago how hard it would be for people to get this much information on people who they believe should be killed."

Barsomyat.com is registered to Viza-Web Inc., a Web hosting company based in Woodbury, Minn.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; islamofascism; jihadinamerica; koranimals; paltalk; probaathist; proosama; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; theevilofourtime; trop
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To: billybudd
I hope FreeRepublic debates don't degenerate into stalking and murder.

If it does, the only ones left will be the trolls and newbies......

81 posted on 02/07/2005 1:51:00 PM PST by b4its2late (Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
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To: EdReform

Books on my shelf, links to PDF freebies shared !, Books given as gifts at X-Mas !

Outstanding reference with talking points . The five oldest rant has been memorized and repeated in friendly debates on the religion of pieces.

When I'm done with my rant the conversation usually changes to some other subject as that 5 oldest talking point is a gem ! A winner and a solid indefenseable statement !

Craig Winn , Wins !........He done gooood !


82 posted on 02/07/2005 1:51:46 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Melas
Much of the internet isn't under American control.

Sort of like Algore wasn't.

83 posted on 02/07/2005 1:51:51 PM PST by b4its2late (Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
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To: JohnathanRGalt

Yes, I know.
This is extremely disturbing.


84 posted on 02/07/2005 1:52:26 PM PST by Cindy
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To: JohnathanRGalt

Time to dump the jihad trash.


85 posted on 02/07/2005 1:54:20 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

My stepson just got off the phone with my husband about 5 minutes ago. He is at an army base in Mississippi and their flight going to Iraq just landed and is loading. He called us to say good bye. I just hope President Bush does his part to stop terrorism in America cause those boys are doing their part there. Pray for them.


86 posted on 02/07/2005 2:11:42 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: beckysueb

We ARE praying for them, and will now start praying for YOUR family.

Please FRmail me if there's anything you need, OK???


87 posted on 02/07/2005 2:13:40 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: dmartin
Could anyone tell me how these people were able to track down the home address of someone using a chat room?

The article states that one man's computer was allegedly hacked and his info gotten from it. There was speculation that in the case of the Armanious family that someone claiming to want to become a Christian may have fooled one of them into divulging personal information. Some folks may just be careless. Who knows?

88 posted on 02/07/2005 2:14:10 PM PST by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr...The man on my POW bracelet)
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To: Cornpone

"What do we expect? We already know that according to the Qu'ran calling Muhammad a money grubbing, lecherous, murdering, fascist sociopath is an automatic death sentence under Sharia." I resent you calling the child molesting muslim scum money grubbers!


89 posted on 02/07/2005 2:17:28 PM PST by rrrod
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To: rrrod

Sorry -- not! Never be sorry for the truth.


90 posted on 02/07/2005 2:21:56 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Cornpone

ATTABOY>>>>>CHARGE!!!!!!!!


91 posted on 02/07/2005 2:23:28 PM PST by rrrod
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To: rrrod
Actually I am. I'm working on an essay that tries to explain the real sickness with Islam based on a lot of research. I hope to get it published somewhere, under my own God-fearing name, but if not it will be published here at least. We can't allow ourselves to be intimidated into silence. That's one of the things I talk about in the paper I'm writing.
92 posted on 02/07/2005 2:29:03 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks so much. Its been a hard night but I know many other parents are going through it, too. He really wanted to go. He supports President Bush completely. We asked him if he was afraid and he said no. I asked him why he wanted to go and his exact words were, "I want to defend my country and my buddies are over there and stuff. You know".


93 posted on 02/07/2005 4:24:59 PM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: knighthawk
at the address www.barsomyat.com, features pictures and information about Christians who have been particularly active in debating Muslims on PalTalk.

After death threats and harassment I thought this site would be out of business by now.

94 posted on 02/07/2005 7:13:43 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: johnny7

Wait until they piss off the Cowboys ( reference to the Cowboys and Muslims joke ).


95 posted on 02/07/2005 7:15:38 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: beckysueb

I will. He must make you very proud.


96 posted on 02/07/2005 8:56:14 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: mhking

bttt


97 posted on 02/07/2005 11:30:22 PM PST by lainde
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To: BipolarBob
They post pictures of a murder and claim responsibility and send death threats, my question is why isn't the FBI involved in tracking these people down and putting them in prison. Or is it not PC to track down and imprison Muslim murderers?

Freedom of religion --- political correctness gone mad. The Nazis' mistake was not inventing some god and calling their ideology a religion.

98 posted on 02/08/2005 2:40:48 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Melas

I bet if you went on that site and posted something about murdering homosexuals or something more politically correct than Christians you'd find out how well they can monitor it.


99 posted on 02/08/2005 2:46:28 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Cindy

And where is C.A.I.R.? If someone shoots a paper wad a a mosque or hurts the feelings of a Muslim --- they're right out there --- but they're always extremely silent when it comes to this kind of thing. No condemnation from them.


100 posted on 02/08/2005 2:49:35 AM PST by FITZ
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