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StarLifter bids farewell before being put on ice
The Press [Christchurch, New Zealand] ^ | February 7 2005 | Kim Thomas

Posted on 02/06/2005 12:47:05 PM PST by shaggy eel

The make of jet plane that for years linked Christchurch to Antarctica has taken its last Ice flight.

C-141s were the first jets to land in Antarctica and have transported people and supplies to the United States' McMurdo Station in Antarctic for the past 40 years.

Although destined to become scrap metal on its return to the States, the last great old grey StarLifter to make the Ice flight was farewelled with much sentiment by Antarctic personnel yesterday in Christchurch before it flew back to the United States.

"It's like men and their cars – you get kind of attached to the old thing," strategic airlift commander Major Gevin Harrison said.

The aircraft had been an integral part of the lives of those working on the Ice for as long as most people could remember, he said.

In its almost half a century of service to the Antarctic mission, the C-141 put in more than 45,000 flight hours as part of Operation Deep Freeze, which kept McMurdo and Scott Base stocked with people and necessary supplies.

C-141s were used primarily for Antarctic missions since entering service in 1965, Harrison said.

Forty-seven United States Air Force staff flew out on a C-141 yesterday – also taking leave of Christchurch and their involvement with the Antarctic programme.

The C-141 will stop in American Samoa to refuel and then spend a night in Hawaii before heading to Tuscon, Arizona.

While the aircraft was a workhorse and an integral part of Antarctic history, it was not the most comfortable of rides, Harrison said. Seating arrangements inside the C-141 is so tight passengers sit facing each other with little room between knees.

The C-141s had been replaced by the newer, larger and more comfortable C-17 aircraft.

Despite its well-worn exterior and squashed interior, the StarLifter would be missed, Antarctic New Zealand chief executive Lou Sanson said. "The C-141s have been an integral part of the New Zealand Antarctic programme ... their arrival changed both the speed and volume of people and cargo that could be moved to between Christchurch and Antarctica.

"It's the end of an era and the passing of a significant Antarctic milestone."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: antarctica; c141; mcmurdo; militarybases; newzealand; opdeepfreeze; starlifter; supplylines; usap
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To: shaggy eel

That's less restrictive than I thought it might be, but it still makes me uncomfortable.


41 posted on 02/06/2005 2:54:01 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
but it still makes me uncomfortable.

,,, I'm 46 years old and I've yet to be in my first gun fight. I feel comfortable.

42 posted on 02/06/2005 3:05:39 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: blackie
This is similar to the old beast that took my Unit over to Nam. From Point Mugu, Ca to Da Nang in about 15 island hops.

Landing the C-124C Globemaster on Johnston Island with no winds almost put us in the drink. The brakes didn't like that short runway. LOL


43 posted on 02/06/2005 3:27:16 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: shaggy eel

>>Our laws are based on British laws, so no Constitutional rights like you've got.<<

You do have shovels, I'm sure.


44 posted on 02/06/2005 3:34:48 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: shaggy eel

About two years ago, shaggy eel. Someone had put a 50 foot section of a C-141's cargo box (Wing Roots and Empty Main Gear Pods Included) on E-Bay. The section was open at both ends. Just behind the Crew Door to just shy of the Troop Doors.

I believe the AF bought that section back. Though it would make a very cool bar!

Jack.


45 posted on 02/06/2005 3:41:04 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: ops33
Nice old jet. Flew in one from Ramstein to Charleston on a "hop" to go on vacation. Then wound up at a MAC base on my last duty station and got to see when they "lengthened" the fuselage and painted them camo green. Started calling them "star lizards".
46 posted on 02/06/2005 3:47:29 PM PST by Mustng959 (In loving memory of those that gave their all to preserve our Freedoms!)
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To: B4Ranch

My Reserve Unit at Andrews had C-124 "Shakies" up to the mid-1960s, before they transitioned to C-130s (My favorite plane!).

The Old Timers used to tell stories about the Shakies that made my hair stand up. Big and Slow were its good virtues. With the Hydraulic System from Hell. And huge honking Recips that made flying into a headwind make you think you were sitting still.

Besides, I have no wish to change a Wheel and Tire that is taller and many, many times heavier than I am.

Jack.


47 posted on 02/06/2005 3:49:59 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: shaggy eel; blackie
Favorite C-17 pic, a swarm.
48 posted on 02/06/2005 3:54:57 PM PST by dighton
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To: shaggy eel

You wish. Most of the stuff is just plain junk. I think that the government has a policy of once an item is declared obsolete or beyond economical repar or they just want to sell it, that it must stand out in the weather for at least 3 years bvefore it is sold.

And people who bid on it are insane! I watched people bid $175 for obsolete PDA's that were selling on ebay for $60!


49 posted on 02/06/2005 3:58:03 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: shaggy eel

That's one honking big airplane!


50 posted on 02/06/2005 3:58:48 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: B4Ranch
You do have shovels, I'm sure.

,,, as sure as there's tyranny of government, we do. We'll use our shovels if we have to.

51 posted on 02/06/2005 3:59:51 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Jack Deth

,,, I think anyone wanting to buy and export anything military from the US needs State Department approval, even if it's obsolete. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I have from somewhere.


52 posted on 02/06/2005 4:01:42 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel

BTTT


53 posted on 02/06/2005 4:02:19 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Jack Deth
Didn't the C-124 have the wing and power plants from the B-29?
Wow, I can't believe the 141 is heading for the bone yard. I can't be that old!
54 posted on 02/06/2005 4:09:08 PM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: Jack Deth

Well, I'll miss the "old" Starlifter. I always enjoyed jumping (stepping) out of them.


55 posted on 02/06/2005 4:09:55 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Professional Engineer

I've flown on those but I can't work the front end, only the back.


56 posted on 02/06/2005 4:21:01 PM PST by CholeraJoe (On the third day, the Lord invented the Remington bolt action rifle so that man could hunt dinosaurs)
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To: shaggy eel
Thanks for posting this. I flew C-141s for years.......it was the C-47 of its era, a wonderful airplane.
57 posted on 02/06/2005 4:28:02 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: B4Ranch
Is that what we used to call the Goony Bird? I hitched rides a couple times on those while in college. One I didn't think was going to be able to clear the Alps.
58 posted on 02/06/2005 4:29:01 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Your beliefs may have credence, Blood of Tyrants:

The venerable M-113 Armored Personell Carrier was developed in the early 1950s. Put into Army Inventory in Europe in the Mid-1950s. Slated for the Scrap Heap and Obsolescence under Kennedy. Until Vietnam began to heat up. It's still alive and well in the Army's Inventory today.

Jack.


59 posted on 02/06/2005 4:30:00 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: investigateworld

The engines were the same as a B-29's, iw: Not sure about the wings.

Jack.


60 posted on 02/06/2005 4:35:17 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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