Stephanie Keith for The New York Times
Finbarr Harten and Melaina Mace outside Donovan's Pub in Queens.
Posted on 02/05/2005 6:24:19 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
It is a lowsy ban. Now they just smoke in front of the exit doors in holy congregation so when you walk out you get mushroom-clouded and lose 3-5 days of your life...
Ask anyone in Bay Ridge what they think of the Yuppie Douchbag Manhattanites smoking ban.
Same thing happened in San Francisco. It is indeed a lousy ban, but at the same time, I don't think bar owners realized just how much business they would keep and even gain if they had voluntarily gone non-smoking.
Outside the barrooms, on the other hand, where pedestrians have to sludge through the cloud...
How long before a Federal smoking ban?
That being said, bars should set their own rules.
Which FORCES the pedestrians inside the bars to get some fresh air. They are virtually captive there, so of course, they imbibe to forget their terrible plight. A brilliant buisness scheme.
How long before the subsidies for the tobacco industry go away?
once again the nyslimes has proved that they are the masters of slanting anything
as a ny metro resident the classic old fashioned neighborhood saloon is going by the way side
if the slimes went inside donovans and told the bar patrons its okay to light up a cigarette or pipe or cigar at least fifty percent of the patrons would have cheered wildly
non smokers definetly have their rights but god forbid our sage legislators would pass a law to accomodate everybody
I don't think bar owners realized just how much business they would keep and even gain if they had voluntarily gone non-smoking.
Do you realize you had the multi- million dollar business plan before the ban....and all to yourself!!!...if only you you would have gone with your convictions...You'd be rich ..and I could still light up in my local pub!....Woulda been a WIN-WIN!
My sentiments exactly. I oppose bans of these types, but bars and restaurants are afraid to implement bans unless forced to do so by law, for fear of losing customers. Yet the math would seem to argue that a greater number of establishments give it a try.
About 22% of American adults are smokers. Ans since their is a strong inverse relationship between smoking and income level, you'd think that at least some upscale establishments would give it a try. I think they'd substantially increase their business due to grateful non-smokers beating a path to their door.
In my opinion, nothing impairs the taste of food, and especially of a fine wine, than cigarette smoke in the vicinity. I hope bar and restaurant owners read this article and take heed.
Your right. Johnny Carson only lived to be 79.
agh...your=you're
Carsons brother said that he would have lived longer if he hadn't smoked.
Both of his parents lived into their 90's.
Personally, and as a smoker, I hope to live that long, or have a family like carsons.
Say what they will, they've lost plenty of my business.
"I'm just glad that on my first trip, I was able to fulfill a lifelong ambition: To sit in a New York blues bar, with a cigarette in one hand and a whiskey in the other."
Sorry to say those younger than you are SOL on that score. But Jersey is still smoker friendly, so stop by here on your next journey. I venture there's some jazz playing in Hoboken.
Yes, I know it's not the same.
Nanny-state nincompoops, with the REDUCED DRY CLEANING BILLS!,, ARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!
Let me not say what is in my mind, for it is a sin.
Let me try again...
About 22% of American adults are smokers. Ans And since their there is a strong inverse relationship between smoking and income level, you'd think that at least some upscale establishments would give it a try.
I think they'd substantially increase their business due to grateful non-smokers beating a path to their door. In my opinion, nothing impairs the taste of food, and especially of a fine wine, more than cigarette smoke in the vicinity. I hope bar and restaurant owners read this article and take heed.
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