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Ugly Americans: The United States in the Eyes of Europe
Crisis Magazine ^ | February 3, 2005 | Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 02/05/2005 6:19:31 AM PST by NYer

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To: Lazamataz

In the future China will rule as the only Super Power and then all this talk about who won the WWII be of no interest.


221 posted on 02/19/2005 8:36:52 AM PST by tomjohn77
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To: tomjohn77
In the future China will rule as the only Super Power and then all this talk about who won the WWII be of no interest.

Then, the Swedish will rise up to defeat China, and we'll all be forced to eat those little meatballs.

222 posted on 02/19/2005 8:41:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: quadrant

You're right. My wife and mother went on a pilgrimage together 4 years ago to Lourdes, Fatima and the Vatican. They are going again this summer. My wife told me that the French were absolutely secular and finding a french worshipper even at Lourdes was a near miracle in itself. She also said the Spanish and Italians are far more secular than we are which is odd given the pervasiveness of the Catholic Church but believable. The Portuguese came off the best but only slightly ahead of the Spanish...


223 posted on 02/19/2005 8:48:34 AM PST by Crapgame
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To: Lazamataz

Thats true. Looks like our little discussion is becoming somewhat about hard core facts that is hard to digest. Well the truth is hard sometimes.


224 posted on 02/19/2005 8:50:42 AM PST by tomjohn77
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To: Lazamataz

Acctually I think San Marino will rise up to fight China


225 posted on 02/19/2005 8:53:06 AM PST by tomjohn77
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To: Crapgame

Well most Europeans are secular, but I am a Christian. Dont believe in Catholisism, because of its history of luting people. Making people think their contribution to the Vatican will get them to heaven. You cannot pay your way to heaven!


226 posted on 02/19/2005 8:56:46 AM PST by tomjohn77
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To: NYer
Hutton thinks America's conservatism is "almost Leninist."

You can't ever hope to have a friendly relationship with people who are either out of touch with reality or shameless liars. I don't understand the desire some people have to be liked by people who are themselves so thoroughly unlikeable. Like that twit at the beginning of the article who complained that America came too late to WWII. Excuse me? Too late to a war started -- again -- by those sophisticated, peace-loving Europeans? I wonder if he voiced the same complaint to French tourists about France caving and then collaborating with Germany. I doubt it.

Anyway, we're either too early (Iraq) or too late (WWII) for these people. I'm sure there's a psychological term for all of this -- this envy, this wanting to chop off the head that sticks above the crowd -- but I'm not interested in trying to make nice with such people.

227 posted on 02/19/2005 9:03:25 AM PST by Glenmerle
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To: tomjohn77

<< The US played a major role, but not as important as the Russians >>

Bullsh*t!

The Soviet Union would not have had shoes to wear, let alone armaments, had the United States of America not poured Trillions [In 2005 Dollars] of its Treasure into supplying, arming and feeding it [ and our every-other WW-II "ally" -- once-great-britain included] and copious quantities of the Blood of its young men into delivering it all. And into both defeating the Germans -- and the Japanese -- and Trillions more into keeping the bloody Soviets at bay until we defeated them -- while you jokers have all played with yourselves for another sixty years!

Read Glenmerle's post #227 and note what he has to say about folks who are out of touch with reality -- or, I might add, who are just plain bloody mean spirited to be capable of rational and/or objective thought.

Whew: -- Nothing like an ungrateful bloody Euro-peon ingrate or two to kick the day off well!


228 posted on 02/19/2005 12:02:25 PM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: UltraKonservativen; tomjohn77

#145?

Hear! Hear!

Well said!

BUMPping


229 posted on 02/19/2005 12:07:03 PM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: NYer; snugs
Any country that gave us the formidable and right honorable Maggie Thatcher is OK in my book.
Besides, I hear they also have their share of Cheney Chicks in Great Britain.
230 posted on 02/19/2005 12:09:46 PM PST by jla
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To: Cornpone
We set out from the start to be different and we are.

Yes.

Simple and profound.

231 posted on 02/19/2005 12:42:51 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: NYer
The author of this article doesn't get to the heart of the matter until the next to the last paragraph.
Europe has shunned God. Other than a few lonely outposts of believers, Europe as a whole vacillates between atheism and Gaia worshiping paganism (against the backdrop of a rising tide of Mohammedanism). A continent that once fanned the flames of Christianity has now become a snuffed out candlestick. Sad, but there is no common ground with those that don't fear God. America's candlestick may flicker from time to time - but it is still burning. As Christianity grows in Asia and Africa I hold out a better of hope of finding a working common ground with the people of those continents than I do with a dead Europe.
Maybe the dead will be made alive again -- but I just don't see any signs of it...
232 posted on 02/19/2005 1:05:46 PM PST by El Cid
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To: Crapgame
My wife and mother went on a pilgrimage together 4 years ago to Lourdes, Fatima and the Vatican. They are going again this summer.

This time, suggest they swing through Assisi. It's a 'must' stop on any pilgrimage. St. Francis bequeathed his peace on this small town. There is a serenity there like no other place on earth.

233 posted on 02/19/2005 1:13:23 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: jla

**Besides, I hear they also have their share of Cheney Chicks in Great Britain.**

And here she is


234 posted on 02/19/2005 2:24:24 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: NYer

fuckum


235 posted on 02/19/2005 2:26:56 PM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: snugs

I think the grandchild might agree with your assessment of our Veep.

236 posted on 02/19/2005 6:30:41 PM PST by jla
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To: Brian Allen

Well thats right that the Russians got supplies from the US, but it was not the West front that was the most crucial. The battle for Stalingrad was the turning point. It was the vast distances and cold weather and a lot of Russians that broke the back of Nazi Germany.
Every body knows that the East Front broke Nazi Germanys back. Its the truth


237 posted on 02/20/2005 10:07:26 AM PST by tomjohn77
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To: Brian Allen

To get insults from a person means that he/you cannot defend your view in a good way. Sad but true. When you are more rational and calm we can continue this little discussion.

Sincerely

Tom


238 posted on 02/20/2005 10:53:03 AM PST by tomjohn77
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To: Brian Allen

I have studyed in the US and have many good American friends. My best friend is a Bush supported. Came over to my families house for Christmas and New Years. I just wrote my view of the WWII and I got some insults back. Grest way to get a productive discussion going. If everybody acted that way the world would have been a great place. Its time to talk about freedom of speech and respect.


239 posted on 02/20/2005 11:02:43 AM PST by tomjohn77
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