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To: quadrant

You're right. My wife and mother went on a pilgrimage together 4 years ago to Lourdes, Fatima and the Vatican. They are going again this summer. My wife told me that the French were absolutely secular and finding a french worshipper even at Lourdes was a near miracle in itself. She also said the Spanish and Italians are far more secular than we are which is odd given the pervasiveness of the Catholic Church but believable. The Portuguese came off the best but only slightly ahead of the Spanish...


223 posted on 02/19/2005 8:48:34 AM PST by Crapgame
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Well most Europeans are secular, but I am a Christian. Dont believe in Catholisism, because of its history of luting people. Making people think their contribution to the Vatican will get them to heaven. You cannot pay your way to heaven!


226 posted on 02/19/2005 8:56:46 AM PST by tomjohn77
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My wife and mother went on a pilgrimage together 4 years ago to Lourdes, Fatima and the Vatican. They are going again this summer.

This time, suggest they swing through Assisi. It's a 'must' stop on any pilgrimage. St. Francis bequeathed his peace on this small town. There is a serenity there like no other place on earth.

233 posted on 02/19/2005 1:13:23 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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