Posted on 02/05/2005 5:54:59 AM PST by goldstategop
And, I'll let you in on my secret target audience: Larry David, the star of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and the co-creator of "Seinfeld." I know that he is a big liberal (married to an even bigger liberal) and that his character on the show turned down the chance for wife-approved sex with a beautiful blond simply because she had a picture of President Bush by her couch.
But if he is anything like his character, he is, at heart, a conservative: He refuses to put up with nonsense; he's remorselessly politically incorrect, and he is fundamentally sensible. If he'll just listen, I'll expose his mind to the sensible conservative explanations for the great issues of the day. He'll be my first convert deep in the belly of the liberal Hollywood beast
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."
I can think of two friends who call themselves liberal (because they're misled and believe everything on NPR) but I know in their hearts they're as conservative as I am. Liberalism is not necessarily fatal, some lefties do see the Light, and turn to Right before it's too late and they've gone off the deep end (won't mention any names.)
Good article, thanks
Santa Monica is salvagable, and so are parts of New England, New Jersey, Chicago, and perhaps Oregon.
The big question mark hangs over the San Francisco Bay Area and Boston in particular, though. Both only need to declare "God save the Queen!" and the Bay Area can fit in well in New Zealand while Boston, Canada.
If Santa Monica is salvagable, it must be a half block somewhere South of Wilshire.
Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."
Tony Blankley rarely says or writes crap. This guy is in the upper percentile of the commentariat
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Exactly. These are the people who still think of the Democrats as "Scoop" Jackson or JFK. Most of them have not thought deeply about the issues of the day, and get most of their information from the Old Media.
Expose them to Freerepublic for six months, and they would be converted.
Absolutely not. After their backing of Clinton's malfesance, and their demonisation of President Bush, to the extent they've called for his murder, I do not believe they are worth speaking to. This is a war, as declared by James Carville - it is a fight for the soul of the West. A choice between Aragorn and Grima Wormtongue, if you will. No quarter is being given (recall how the left cheered when Reagan died and wanted the President to choke on another pretzel), none should be offered.
Regards, Ivan
Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."
I know for a fact that my family hates Republicans more than they love Democrats, I was that way as well. I dont think I could have ever made the leap across if it wasn't for the little bridge of libertarianism that carried me over. Such was my hate for Republicans.
Sorry to say, but Chicago is not salvagable. While many Democrats are fairly conservative, they stick to the party because they believe the party serves their everyday needs (e.g., snow removal, garbage pickup, a turkey for election day).
This is especially the case in minority neighborhoods where the Democratic Machine plantation is strongest. That's where the original Mayor Daley got his plurality every time.
Sadly, when many Chicagoans move out to the suburbs, they carry their politics with them. My area (NW suburbs) used to be around 70% Republican. Now it is about 50-50. We have had an influx of Oprah moms and metrosexual men.
My 30-something neighbors are a delightful couple, and generally moderate in their beliefs. When I explained to them that I was a conservative, they looked at me like I was nuts. I'll keep working on them.
Hit them over the head with a hammer to get their attention
Explain your position slowly and unemotionally
Hit them over the head again and move on to the next liberal
As blogger Orrin Judd likes to say, all humor is conservative. An excerpt from one of his frequent musings on the topic:
"... (T)o a liberal life is a tragedy, to a conservative it's a comedy. There are several causes of this. The most important is that conservatives hold to the Judeo-Christian worldview of Man as Fallen.
"... Now, humor is a difficult thing to define, but one would hope we could all agree that it by and large consists of our taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others. Comedy occurs, always, at someone's expense. ... (F)or a conservative these things serve merely serve as a confirmation of our dismal view of Man and of life. Pop in a Porky's movie and then try to tell us that mankind is perfectible. Heck, try to tell us that God wouldn't be justified in scrapping the whole mess and starting over.
"... And so, all great comedy is fundamentally conservative. There simply is no such thing as liberal humor."
I think we should start calling leftists "socialists" instead of "liberals."
We conservatives are the true "liberals" in the classic sense of the word. Just like "gay" is not true for most homosexuals, "liberal" has no reality in the modern day Dem voters' world view. They are elitist, and oppressive, pro-Government power, NOT forward-thinking, NOT inclusive, NOT tolerant, etc.
Such was my hate for Republicans.
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Have you ever shared your insights and history with Freepers? It would really be enlightening to us to know what were the perceptions that so turned you off, and formed your opinions.
Thanks for considering this.
There is a sub-class of liberal that is potentially reachable. The best indicators are
1. They disagree with the liberal mind set on at least one key point.
2. Their life style seems to mimic the conservative ideal. Hard working,self reliant, responsible family oriented; or contradicts the liberal stereotype in one important matter,ex. they go to church.
What sorts of actions or behaviors are you referring to, specifically?
I'm not convinced that people "loathed" Republicans because of anything that Republicans themselves did. Most of the loathing has been spawned by a fundamental misreading of conservative motivations. For instance: Conservatives oppose affirmative action because it infringes individual rights. Affirmative action is something that can possibly help minorities. Thus, "conservatives oppose minorities."
I recently wrote about these sorts of liberal leaps of logic.
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I've been thinking the same thing for quite a while myself. I just call 'em "lefties".
Yeah, "leftists" (or "lefties") is certainly the most accurate description of those folks. I prefer it as well.
But language is an ever-mutating beast. Words are just the symbols we use to communicate. In that sense, it doesn't matter what the word "liberal" used to mean. All that matters is how it is understood by those who use it at a given time. If "liberal" is now employed to symbolize something different from what it used to symbolize, that's OK, so long as both speaker and listener understand its meaning.
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