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The Liberal Beast Meets Mr Right (Tony Blankley On How Liberals Are Conservatives At Heart Alert)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 02/05/04 | Tony Blankley

Posted on 02/05/2005 5:54:59 AM PST by goldstategop

And, I'll let you in on my secret target audience: Larry David, the star of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and the co-creator of "Seinfeld." I know that he is a big liberal (married to an even bigger liberal) and that his character on the show turned down the chance for wife-approved sex with a beautiful blond simply because she had a picture of President Bush by her couch.

But if he is anything like his character, he is, at heart, a conservative: He refuses to put up with nonsense; he's remorselessly politically incorrect, and he is fundamentally sensible. If he'll just listen, I'll expose his mind to the sensible conservative explanations for the great issues of the day. He'll be my first convert deep in the belly of the liberal Hollywood beast

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: evangelism; getmoreovertoourside; kcrw; liberals; peoplesrepofsm; talkradio; tonyblankley
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Its said liberals can't be conservatives. Well maybe deep down they are. Someone who isn't Rush Limbaugh might just get a hearing in the belly of the Liberal Beast: The People's Republic Of Santa Monica. Tony Blankley faces a big task among the heathens and he's up for the challenge of winning hearts and minds over to conservatism.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

1 posted on 02/05/2005 5:55:00 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

I can think of two friends who call themselves liberal (because they're misled and believe everything on NPR) but I know in their hearts they're as conservative as I am. Liberalism is not necessarily fatal, some lefties do see the Light, and turn to Right before it's too late and they've gone off the deep end (won't mention any names.)
Good article, thanks


2 posted on 02/05/2005 6:09:00 AM PST by GrannyAnnie (as right as I can be)
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To: goldstategop

Santa Monica is salvagable, and so are parts of New England, New Jersey, Chicago, and perhaps Oregon.

The big question mark hangs over the San Francisco Bay Area and Boston in particular, though. Both only need to declare "God save the Queen!" and the Bay Area can fit in well in New Zealand while Boston, Canada.


3 posted on 02/05/2005 6:09:01 AM PST by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: NZerFromHK

If Santa Monica is salvagable, it must be a half block somewhere South of Wilshire.


4 posted on 02/05/2005 6:11:57 AM PST by Bertha Fanation
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To: NZerFromHK
Agreed. We won't win over every one but we could win over half the people in Blue States that would make them competitive for the Republican Party. A lot of liberals have never given that much thought to philosophy and they live their lives according to conservative values. And the reason they pull the "D" lever is because of family tradition or because they think the Democrats haven't gone yet off into the deep end. These are the folks we can get. I'm not talking about the dyed-in-the wool Deaniacs or Michael Moore types. You'd never get a hearing from them.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

5 posted on 02/05/2005 6:14:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Tony Blankley rarely says or writes crap. This guy is in the upper percentile of the commentariat
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commentariat noun. Pundits, experts, analysts, and other commentators.


Example Citation:


"The polls showed that people did not trust [Clinton], even more than they did not trust him the week before; but they still supported him. It could only be a matter of time, official Washington was deciding, before the proletariat caught up with the Commentariat."
—Andrew Marshall, "Fourteen Days That...Shook the President," The Independent (London)


6 posted on 02/05/2005 6:18:12 AM PST by dennisw (Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”)
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To: goldstategop
Liberals are barely human let alone conservative.
7 posted on 02/05/2005 6:19:25 AM PST by jla
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To: goldstategop
And the reason they pull the "D" lever is because of family tradition or because they think the Democrats haven't gone yet off into the deep end.

Exactly. These are the people who still think of the Democrats as "Scoop" Jackson or JFK. Most of them have not thought deeply about the issues of the day, and get most of their information from the Old Media.

Expose them to Freerepublic for six months, and they would be converted.

8 posted on 02/05/2005 6:22:20 AM PST by marktwain
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To: goldstategop
On How Liberals Are Conservatives At Heart

Absolutely not. After their backing of Clinton's malfesance, and their demonisation of President Bush, to the extent they've called for his murder, I do not believe they are worth speaking to. This is a war, as declared by James Carville - it is a fight for the soul of the West. A choice between Aragorn and Grima Wormtongue, if you will. No quarter is being given (recall how the left cheered when Reagan died and wanted the President to choke on another pretzel), none should be offered.

Regards, Ivan

9 posted on 02/05/2005 6:25:35 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan
To the Deaniacs and and Moore types of the world the battle must be joined. To the rest we welcome them to the cause of defending all that is great about our civilization.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

10 posted on 02/05/2005 6:29:23 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
ALot of liberals and avowed democrats are really just REPUBLICAN HATERS. They loathe and fear republicans because, well because Republicans just dont tend to come across well to alot of people. I blame the media for this at the moment, but I admit that in the past, Republicans didn't do themselves alot of favors in that matter.

I know for a fact that my family hates Republicans more than they love Democrats, I was that way as well. I dont think I could have ever made the leap across if it wasn't for the little bridge of libertarianism that carried me over. Such was my hate for Republicans.

11 posted on 02/05/2005 6:33:34 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: NZerFromHK

Sorry to say, but Chicago is not salvagable. While many Democrats are fairly conservative, they stick to the party because they believe the party serves their everyday needs (e.g., snow removal, garbage pickup, a turkey for election day).

This is especially the case in minority neighborhoods where the Democratic Machine plantation is strongest. That's where the original Mayor Daley got his plurality every time.

Sadly, when many Chicagoans move out to the suburbs, they carry their politics with them. My area (NW suburbs) used to be around 70% Republican. Now it is about 50-50. We have had an influx of Oprah moms and metrosexual men.

My 30-something neighbors are a delightful couple, and generally moderate in their beliefs. When I explained to them that I was a conservative, they looked at me like I was nuts. I'll keep working on them.


12 posted on 02/05/2005 6:49:26 AM PST by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: goldstategop
Some time ago I heard someone explain the most effective way to convert a liberal to common sense:

Hit them over the head with a hammer to get their attention

Explain your position slowly and unemotionally

Hit them over the head again and move on to the next liberal

13 posted on 02/05/2005 6:55:06 AM PST by Larry381
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To: goldstategop
I've had these same sorts of thoughts when watching "Curb Your Enthusiasm" (best show on TV, incidentally). While Larry David occasionally professes liberal leanings, his day-to-day view of the world is inherently conservative.

As blogger Orrin Judd likes to say, all humor is conservative. An excerpt from one of his frequent musings on the topic:

"... (T)o a liberal life is a tragedy, to a conservative it's a comedy. There are several causes of this. The most important is that conservatives hold to the Judeo-Christian worldview of Man as Fallen.

"... Now, humor is a difficult thing to define, but one would hope we could all agree that it by and large consists of our taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others. Comedy occurs, always, at someone's expense. ... (F)or a conservative these things serve merely serve as a confirmation of our dismal view of Man and of life. Pop in a Porky's movie and then try to tell us that mankind is perfectible. Heck, try to tell us that God wouldn't be justified in scrapping the whole mess and starting over.

"... And so, all great comedy is fundamentally conservative. There simply is no such thing as liberal humor."

14 posted on 02/05/2005 7:17:36 AM PST by Semolina Pilchard
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To: GrannyAnnie; Freee-dame

I think we should start calling leftists "socialists" instead of "liberals."

We conservatives are the true "liberals" in the classic sense of the word. Just like "gay" is not true for most homosexuals, "liberal" has no reality in the modern day Dem voters' world view. They are elitist, and oppressive, pro-Government power, NOT forward-thinking, NOT inclusive, NOT tolerant, etc.


15 posted on 02/05/2005 7:17:57 AM PST by maica (Ask a Dem: "When did promoting Democracy and Freedom in the World become a Bad Thing??")
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To: Paradox

Such was my hate for Republicans.


^^^^^

Have you ever shared your insights and history with Freepers? It would really be enlightening to us to know what were the perceptions that so turned you off, and formed your opinions.

Thanks for considering this.


16 posted on 02/05/2005 7:23:58 AM PST by maica (Ask a Dem: "When did promoting Democracy and Freedom in the World become a Bad Thing??")
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To: Larry381

There is a sub-class of liberal that is potentially reachable. The best indicators are
1. They disagree with the liberal mind set on at least one key point.

2. Their life style seems to mimic the conservative ideal. Hard working,self reliant, responsible family oriented; or contradicts the liberal stereotype in one important matter,ex. they go to church.


17 posted on 02/05/2005 7:30:15 AM PST by Jonah Johansen
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To: Paradox
"... in the past, Republicans didn't do themselves alot of favors in that matter."

What sorts of actions or behaviors are you referring to, specifically?

I'm not convinced that people "loathed" Republicans because of anything that Republicans themselves did. Most of the loathing has been spawned by a fundamental misreading of conservative motivations. For instance: Conservatives oppose affirmative action because it infringes individual rights. Affirmative action is something that can possibly help minorities. Thus, "conservatives oppose minorities."

I recently wrote about these sorts of liberal leaps of logic.

Semolina

18 posted on 02/05/2005 7:35:35 AM PST by Semolina Pilchard
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To: maica

I've been thinking the same thing for quite a while myself. I just call 'em "lefties".


19 posted on 02/05/2005 7:42:11 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Yeah, "leftists" (or "lefties") is certainly the most accurate description of those folks. I prefer it as well.

But language is an ever-mutating beast. Words are just the symbols we use to communicate. In that sense, it doesn't matter what the word "liberal" used to mean. All that matters is how it is understood by those who use it at a given time. If "liberal" is now employed to symbolize something different from what it used to symbolize, that's OK, so long as both speaker and listener understand its meaning.


20 posted on 02/05/2005 7:51:55 AM PST by Semolina Pilchard
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