Posted on 02/04/2005 11:21:16 AM PST by SW6906
Once the election is voided I think there will be a lot of pressure on the legislature to get us a special election for Gov. I predict that Gregorie won't even run again. I think Owens, who will have been the acting Gov. will be the official candidate. Or maybe they will both run! (California Scenario?) No, they won't let that happen.
One interested in the principle involved?
What a day what a day !! Ding dong the witch is gone, witch is gone, ding dong the rat-tail'd witch is gone !!
"Yeah, but in reality what wronged loser would put up the big bucks when the only result is some election 2 years away?"
I'm with you Shermy. Yes, it'd be true that the alledged winner wouldn't be so, but the wronged loser (as you so aptly put it) wouldn't be, either. I don't understand why the aim is not to ascertain the correct result.
I would think that, no matter how much I may disagree, she IS the certified governor and took the oath, and until the election contest reaches fruitation, any lawful act she takes as governor would be legitimate... I could be wrong, though...
One interested in the principle involved? One who actually cares about the integrity of the election process?
It isn't as clear as one might think. Don't have time to look at it now, but on my first quick reading on the constitution, it doesn't cover this situation.
Yes! isn't it great?
For those who think this has to be decided in the Supreme Court are wrong.(Of course when we win the Demo's will take it higher). This case is going forward in this court and if we prevail he will declare Gregroir NULL AND VOID then the Legislature will have to have another election.
John Carlson just said in the meantime we can keep gathering evidence and the one thing they have not gotten into so far is the illegal alien votes.
Well, there are lots of scenarios that the constitution doesn't cover - however, it DOES cover vacancies in the Office of Governor. It's not like they specified how those vacancies were to occur - the writers couldn't concieve of every possible senario that leads to a vacancy. So, as far as they were concerned a vacancy is a vacancy, period, and it spells out how the vacancy is to be filled.
I don't see the need to make it any more complicated than it needs to be. :)
Yes. They screwed up in the 2000 election when they tried to make an issue of voter "disenfrachisement", and they have exacerbated the problem in 2004. Now Republicans have every legitimate right to answer: "We too are extremely concerned about voter disenfranchisement. And vote fraud represents the disenfranchisement of legally legitimate voters. Thus we support and will insist upon a thorough inverstigation of vote fraud wherever it is suspected."
We all know who has benefited substantially from vote fraud for deacdes. IMO the Dims miscalculated by shining the spotlight on this issue. The Democrat Party opened the door, and the Republican Party should go after them with a vengence now.
If the court voids the election, the office does not become vacant. It was never filled by the election. The legal definition of 'Void' means it is as if it never happened in the first place. This would mean that any laws requiring the signature of a governor would be void once we have a legitimately elected governor.
Don't be surprised if Rossi makes this exact argument in the near future.
So do you have an opinion on my strategy in #551?
There is also a great argument that the election should be just between those who were on this past November ballot.
i think the sooner we have a revote, the better. I think the judge got this part wrong. Don't be surprised if he changes his mind, especially since neither party briefed this issue yet.
Excellent point.
Ok I had thought any judge would be stepping beyond their authority by 'ordering' a revote.
BUT I had thought if the judge were to set aside the election, to declare it null and void, that it would fall to the Rossi camp to investigate the illegal votes, how these votes actually fell. BUT that's impossible so I thought the case could have felons granted immunity for their testimony BUT that's a crazy idea, it doesn't cover all illegal votes and who could believe some of these felons anyway?
So I thought the Rossi camp is hosed!
BUT NO!!!
What can happen is the case goes forward, the dirty shenanigans of King County elections and others will be exposed, the election will be declared null and void, Gregoire will be vacating the Governor's office, the Governorship will remain vacant until a special election is held in November.
In the meantime the Lt. Governor will act as caretaker.
This set of developments would set the democrats back for a generation at least. It would show to them what the consequences are for their actions.
I don't see anything in the state constitution that spells that out. Good luck trying to keep people off the ballot, though. I don't see how that could happen if the law allows them to be on it.
Yes I think you are correct. The judge only said he does not the authority to order a revote. For otherwise he would have to set timelines and parameters for carrying out such a vote.
He can't run an election from his chambers.
So he hears the case, decides whether the election was valid or not, then vacate if necessary the office of Governor.
It is is then left to the state constitution to decide how ot fill the vacancy.
But of course the Gregocrats will spin it differently.
The part I don't get is How can a case move forward that will investigate the legality/illegality of votes, when the county auditors and canvassing boards have been removed from the suit?
It doesn't make sense.
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