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Dutch doctors 'refusing' to perform euthanasia (From Gay Rights to Death Rights)
expatica ^ | 3 Feb 2005 | expatica.com

Posted on 02/03/2005 3:07:29 PM PST by Cornpone

AMSTERDAM — A Dutch pro-euthanasia group has launched an investigation into claims that doctors are trying to avoid performing requested euthanasia or are continually delaying carrying out the request.

The Dutch Voluntary End to Life Association (NVVE) said its large-scale investigation among surviving relatives into unperformed euthanasia requests, will be completed by the end of next year, newspaper De Volkskrant reported.

As the NVVE presented a book of interviews with surviving relatives on Thursday, director Rob Jonquière said many of the interviews indicate that doctors are looking for excuses not to carry out euthanasia. "We want to know how often this occurs," he said.

Research commissioned by the Dutch government has found that of the 9,700 requests for euthanasia lodged in 2001, only 3,800 were carried out. In one-third of the requests not carried out, doctors said the patient had already died before euthanasia could be performed.

In 20 percent of the cases, doctors were not prepared to assist a patient commit suicide because not all the legal requirements had been met.

The views of patients and relatives were not included in the research for two former studies and it remains unclear if the comments from doctors were correct. Jonquière said if doctors try and delay euthanasia, they would not be too keen to admit that to researchers.

The NVVE has asked a social medicine professor with the Free University medical centre in Amsterdam, Gerrit van der Waal to conduct the investigation. Van der Waal has in recent years led two investigations into the euthanasia practices among doctors.

Euthanasia has been legal in the Netherlands since April 2002. The law allows assisted suicides if the patient officially requests to die, is suffering from extreme pain or a terminal illness and a second medical opinion has been sought. The Netherlands was the first nation to legalise assisted suicides.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: doctors; euthanasia; holland
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1 posted on 02/03/2005 3:07:30 PM PST by Cornpone
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To: Cornpone

They might be able to enlist some Muslim doctors to assist with this "procedure".

(My apologies to all good & compassionate Muslim doctors everywhere.)


2 posted on 02/03/2005 3:10:30 PM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: Cornpone
A Dutch pro-euthanasia group has launched an investigation into claims that doctors are trying to avoid performing requested euthanasia or are continually delaying carrying out the request.

Couldn't they just get a second opinion?

3 posted on 02/03/2005 3:12:01 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Cornpone
Guess this is about the otherside of euthenasia ~ the mandatory part.

Odds are that if you need the services of a physician in Nederland or Belgium you will probably get a doctor who has scragged one or more patients, and who probably likes to do so.

As I've noted many times before in these threads, it's a good idea to avoid visits to these countries, even in transit through an airport.

There's nothing to see there that you can't figure out from photographs and travel films.

4 posted on 02/03/2005 3:12:20 PM PST by muawiyah (tag line removed)
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To: Cornpone
This is akin to Catholic medical schools "refusing" to teach abortion techniques or perform abortions.

The reality is that the death rate soars in socialized medicine hospitals in the Netherlands on Friday mornings, as less ethical government doctors kill off the really sick patients so they will not be bothered on their weekends off.

The dirty little secret of murdering sick patients, oops I meant "euthanasia," is that it is an incredible money saving strategy for the government.

5 posted on 02/03/2005 3:14:13 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Cornpone; knighthawk
Euthanasia has been legal in the Netherlands since April 2002. The law allows assisted suicides if the patient officially requests to die, is suffering from extreme pain or a terminal illness and a second medical opinion has been sought.

Well isn't that just ducky? Why don't the legislators that passed that law be the ones that have to administer the killing medication? Just bring them in, one at a time, and say, "Here it is, call the coroner when you're through and I'm out of here, lawyer."

6 posted on 02/03/2005 3:14:24 PM PST by xJones
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To: Cornpone

I have a real problem with requiring doctors to perform any particular procedure, especially one that they have major moral problems with.


7 posted on 02/03/2005 3:14:33 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The dirty little secret of murdering sick patients, oops I meant "euthanasia," is that it is an incredible money saving strategy for the government.

That's one reason why the lieberals here are pushing for it....

8 posted on 02/03/2005 3:15:59 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: steveegg
The dirty little secret of murdering sick patients, oops I meant "euthanasia," is that it is an incredible money saving strategy for the government. That's one reason why the lieberals here are pushing for it....

That and also for the reason that it is grossly evil and immoral.

Democrats LOVE to promote ANYTHING evil and immoral.

I mean it. There is no depth to the democrat party's degeneracy.

9 posted on 02/03/2005 3:20:19 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Cornpone
Have their death-squad team do it then.

no doctor should be forced to kill

10 posted on 02/03/2005 3:21:17 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: Cornpone
many of the interviews indicate that doctors are looking for excuses not to carry out euthanasia.

That is like me with my tax return. Just keep putting it off ...

11 posted on 02/03/2005 3:29:24 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Cornpone

Now, we see the REAL agenda of the so-called 'right-to-die' movement.


12 posted on 02/03/2005 3:31:08 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: maine-iac7
Have their death-squad team do it then. no doctor should be forced to kill

Wait a minute, there are no "death sqauds" of any kind in the Netherlands. They don't execute convicted murders and other such scum. These liberals treat criminals and dogs better than their own people. Shameful.

13 posted on 02/03/2005 3:32:07 PM PST by Tamar1973 (“Someone who doesn't know the difference between good & evil is worth nothing.”)
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To: Cornpone

"Oh, just hurry up and do it! Whatcha do, take an oath or something?"


14 posted on 02/03/2005 3:33:16 PM PST by Socratic (Ignorant and free? It's not to be! - T. Jefferson (paraphrase))
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To: Cornpone

Could there be a more twisted perversion of the doctors' mission -- You MUST kill the patient or else!


15 posted on 02/03/2005 3:44:59 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: FormerACLUmember
This is akin to Catholic medical schools "refusing" to teach abortion techniques or perform abortions.

If Kerry had been elected, I'd say it's 100% certain that Catholic hospitals here would have been forced to provide "abortion care" or else turn their facilities over to the state. These people wail and moan about how the evil rightists disrespect them, but in fact they are so close to achieving their goals that it is terrifying.

16 posted on 02/03/2005 3:47:12 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Unam Sanctam
Could there be a more twisted perversion of the doctors' mission -- You MUST kill the patient or else!

Exactly.

17 posted on 02/03/2005 3:47:17 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Cornpone

They cannot be forced to kill. Noone can force you to kill. You simply quit. You just quit. That is what a good doctor does. He doesn't evade, get a second opinion, equivocate, procrastinate. He/she just says no. Anything else is a violation of medicines first law,,do no harm.


18 posted on 02/03/2005 4:41:53 PM PST by cajungirl (do)
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To: Cornpone
many of the interviews indicate that doctors are looking for excuses not to carry out euthanasia.

Here's one: The Hiipocratic Oath: #3 "Physican, do no harm". Minor "excuse".

19 posted on 02/03/2005 6:02:34 PM PST by montag813
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To: muawiyah
As I've noted many times before in these threads, it's a good idea to avoid visits to these countries, even in transit through an airport.

Same goes for Florida.

20 posted on 02/03/2005 8:42:49 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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