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C-span 2..Debate on Gonzales Day 2 ~ Vote today [LIVE THREAD]
Thomas ^ | 2-02-05 | Senate

Posted on 02/02/2005 6:33:50 AM PST by OXENinFLA

PROGRAM -- (Senate - February 01, 2005)

Mr. BROWNBACK. Mr. President, tomorrow the Senate will resume consideration of the nomination of Alberto Gonzales to be Attorney General. A number of colleagues spoke on this nomination today, and we expect a full day of debate tomorrow as well. Under the agreement, we will alternate debate in 1-hour blocks throughout the day. Again, I encourage those Members who wish to speak on the Gonzales nomination to contact the chairman and ranking member of the Judiciary Committee as soon as possible.

ORDERS FOR WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2005 -- (Senate - February 01, 2005) Mr. BROWNBACK. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it adjourn until 9:15 a.m. on Wednesday, February 2. I further ask that following the prayer and pledge, the morning hour be deemed expired, the Journal of proceedings be approved to date, the time for the two leaders be reserved, and at 9:30 a.m. the Senate proceed to executive session and resume consideration of the nomination of Alberto Gonzales to be Attorney General, as provided under the previous order; provided that at 2:30 p.m. Senator Byrd be recognized for up to 1 hour.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: District of Columbia
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To: Miss Marple

Finally, the most important reason is that this is a foreshadowing of what we can expect when Supreme Court nomination hearings come up, and a preparation for more filibusters. Indeed, radical pro-abortion Senator Charles Schumer said of the Gonzales hearings: “There’s a lower standard, frankly, for attorney general than for judge, because you give the president who he wants.”

The Attorney General does not decide the future of Roe v. Wade, and never decides other abortion issues such as parental consent laws for minors. Furthermore, by focusing on the Gonzales memos, it diverts public attention toward Iraq policy and away from the continuous vicious tactics Senate Democrats employ every time President Bush chooses qualified minority candidates.

As it turns out, Alberto Gonzales is not a “blank slate” on abortion; his views are well known. He supports Roe v. Wade and is opposed to parental consent laws. As a Texas Supreme Court Justice, he voted with the majority against parental consent. In his opinion on the ruling, Gonzales wrote: “While the ramifications of such a law may be personally troubling to me as a parent, it is my obligation as a judge to impartially apply the laws of this state without imposing my moral view on the decisions of the legislature.” (Italics mine). We can assume, therefore, that Alberto Gonzales would apply the law of the land (Roe v. Wade) by ruling to keep abortion legal if he were to become a U.S. Supreme Court Justice.

In a 2001 interview, the Los Angeles Times asked Gonzales if he would allow his personal view on abortion to influence his choice of judges. He replied:

“There are no litmus tests for judicial candidates. My own personal feelings about abortion don’t matter. The question is, what is the law…sometimes, interpreting a statute, you may have to uphold a statute that you may find personally offensive. But as a judge, that’s your job.”

That is exactly the neutered type of response given by Senator John Ashcroft during his confirmation hearings as Attorney General. President Bush obviously meant it when he said he’d have no litmus test for judicial candidates. In Gonzales’ own words: "My judgment is that the court has had ample opportunity to look at this issue," he said. "So far as I am concerned," he stated, the right to abortion is "the law of the land, and I will enforce it." Senate Democrats need not worry about the Supreme Court. It’s pro-lifers that should be worried.


261 posted on 02/02/2005 11:01:05 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: Miss Marple

He's doing very well!


262 posted on 02/02/2005 11:01:27 AM PST by tiredoflaundry
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Here's a clue, Gonzalez, if given the job of AG, cannot extend something that has already expired. The AWB expired last September..

Please see my previous post. Further down in the article, it speaks of reauthoriztion of the ban. Last year's expiration did not kill it completely.

263 posted on 02/02/2005 11:01:50 AM PST by jmc813 (The Supreme Court is worthless. Sorry Terri.)
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To: Miss Marple
Orrin is doing quite well!

I have been very pleased. Says he knows that the other side doesn't want any Republican on the Supreme Court and that we have approved them without putting them through this or filibustering judges or smearing great legal intellects. You know, Miss M., they are making these Republicans pretty angry. I hope it lasts.

264 posted on 02/02/2005 11:02:40 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Howlin
Gonzales told the newspaper, "The question is, what is the law, what is the precedent, what is binding in rendering your decision. Sometimes, interpreting a statute, you may have to uphold a statute that you may find personally offensive. But as a judge, that's your job."

Long and short. Whether he likes the laws or not, he'll enforce the laws on the books. If people want change, then they should contact their Congressman, or support pro-life judges and candidates for the courts and Congress.

265 posted on 02/02/2005 11:02:44 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: gopwinsin04

"30 minute countdown to the ol West Virginia Mountaineer.."

That gave me a good laugh, thank you.


266 posted on 02/02/2005 11:02:53 AM PST by sweetiepiezer ((((((((((((((MARINES))))))))))))))
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To: Bahbah
Wow!

"Is their hatred for the President so bad that they transfer it to Alberto Gonzalez?"

Go Orrin!

267 posted on 02/02/2005 11:04:04 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: jmc813
but what am I missing here?

Plenty. Believe me.

268 posted on 02/02/2005 11:04:23 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: jmc813

You are missing the Congress makes the law and he enforces the law.


269 posted on 02/02/2005 11:04:39 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: ZULU
If the term fits I use it.

You can sneer at me and call me a "goose stepper" if it makes you feel better about your holier-than-thou attitude toward the rest of us.

But I, for one, am proud to support a good and honest man like George W. Bush; he's done more for this country in four years than any president I know.

And now, with four more years and the country moving in a direction that most of us never dreamed could happen, here you are, carping about who he wants in his cabinet. You're one of those "snatch failure from the jaws of victory" types, aren't you?

For four years, Bush has held firm, has not wavered from his words and has said what he means and done what he said.

You can call me a BushBot for being in favor of giving him anything and everything he thinks he may need to fight the forces that have torn this country apart for the last fifty years.

I'll proudly stand with George W. Bush as he tries to BUILD UP something, not tear everything down.

270 posted on 02/02/2005 11:05:02 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Plenty. Believe me.

I have always prided myself on admitting when I am mistaken. I am very open to reconsidering my assertions if you would please point them out.

271 posted on 02/02/2005 11:05:38 AM PST by jmc813 (The Supreme Court is worthless. Sorry Terri.)
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To: sweetiepiezer

'Where is my captain, O Captian?'


272 posted on 02/02/2005 11:05:54 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: OXENinFLA

Forgive my ingnorance of Senate procedure, but why did Hatch call for a quorum call?


273 posted on 02/02/2005 11:06:16 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Miss Marple

Can someone ping me a transcript when and if it's available? I'd love to hear Hatch's commentary again!


274 posted on 02/02/2005 11:06:18 AM PST by Christian4Bush ("If Ted Kennedy has his way, democracy in Iraq will suffer the same fate as Mary Jo Kopechne.")
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To: BigSkyFreeper

How many of the 100 senators are lawyers?


275 posted on 02/02/2005 11:06:57 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: jmc813

The AWB expired. Congress can only revive it with new legislation. President Bush has told Congress, if they go down that road, he will sign their death wish and sign the AWB into law.


276 posted on 02/02/2005 11:07:08 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Carolinamom

One too many.


277 posted on 02/02/2005 11:07:42 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: jmc813
but what am I missing here?

What you're missing is that he has a PERSONAL OPINION on it that he SAID he would ignore if circumstances put him in a situation where he had to rule on the law.

What is so damn hard for you to understand about that? He's ENTITLED to a personal opinion, just as Bush is entitled to who he wants as an AG.

278 posted on 02/02/2005 11:07:44 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: MEG33
You are missing the Congress makes the law and he enforces the law.

Are you claiming that the Ashcroft Justice Department's recent memo about the right to keep and bear arms being an individual right as opposed to a collective right was meaningless?

279 posted on 02/02/2005 11:07:53 AM PST by jmc813 (The Supreme Court is worthless. Sorry Terri.)
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To: Christian4Bush

It will probably be found later on his Senate site.


280 posted on 02/02/2005 11:07:57 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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