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C-span 2..Debate on Gonzales Day 2 ~ Vote today [LIVE THREAD]
Thomas ^ | 2-02-05 | Senate

Posted on 02/02/2005 6:33:50 AM PST by OXENinFLA

PROGRAM -- (Senate - February 01, 2005)

Mr. BROWNBACK. Mr. President, tomorrow the Senate will resume consideration of the nomination of Alberto Gonzales to be Attorney General. A number of colleagues spoke on this nomination today, and we expect a full day of debate tomorrow as well. Under the agreement, we will alternate debate in 1-hour blocks throughout the day. Again, I encourage those Members who wish to speak on the Gonzales nomination to contact the chairman and ranking member of the Judiciary Committee as soon as possible.

ORDERS FOR WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2005 -- (Senate - February 01, 2005) Mr. BROWNBACK. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it adjourn until 9:15 a.m. on Wednesday, February 2. I further ask that following the prayer and pledge, the morning hour be deemed expired, the Journal of proceedings be approved to date, the time for the two leaders be reserved, and at 9:30 a.m. the Senate proceed to executive session and resume consideration of the nomination of Alberto Gonzales to be Attorney General, as provided under the previous order; provided that at 2:30 p.m. Senator Byrd be recognized for up to 1 hour.


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To: OXENinFLA
Something about how Gonzolas lied about killing a girl on Martha's Vineyard What?

oops, what was I thinking, it was Kennedy to killed a girl and shouldn't represent people.

101 posted on 02/02/2005 8:42:20 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: OXENinFLA

The Dems are bringing up everything bad in our history. They really love our Country. This is disgusting.


102 posted on 02/02/2005 8:43:02 AM PST by not-alone
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To: Mo1

I love this guy!!!!


103 posted on 02/02/2005 8:45:03 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: ZULU
I AM VERY PROUD OF YOU, ALBERTO, AND I DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS IT!

Alberto Gonzalez is no radical. He is a solid Texas citizen who holds the same family values as most of the rest of us. You are hearing only one side, which is wild and distorted and filled with heated, scary rhetoric. In my opinion, it is also bigoted at its base.

Being for the extension of the AWB, whether right or wrong, is not a radical position. He is not pro-abortion. He dealt with a legal case in which he was trying to discern the intent of some legislation out of the Texas Legislature. He is a humble man from a humble background from Humble, TX. People who know him say he radiates humility and does not see himself as someone who ought to tell everyone else how to live, which is a hallmark of Liberals.

He is religious, honest, a hard-worker and loves his wife and children. He loves this country, America. He can differ with you and others on a plan for guest workers or whatever, which to you makes him scum, but to me he has that right without deserving to be disrespected and characterized as something he's not.

He is everything I would want a public figure to be, and everything I would want in a next door neighbor. I do not have to walk in total lockstep in every detail with someone before I will accord them the respect they deserve.

104 posted on 02/02/2005 8:47:04 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: Howlin

Me too

He always states the facts and makes the liberals look like ninnies at the same time .. *L*

Plus he has a nice southern accent


105 posted on 02/02/2005 8:47:51 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: 1Old Pro

That's what I thought you were getting at but I thought Kennedy drove off the bridge in Chappaquiddick , that's what threw me off..


106 posted on 02/02/2005 8:50:41 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Howlin

Sessions' presentation is excellent. He dares to use common sense and rely on facts. Points out that this is a different kind of enemy, which must be captured, killed, restrained. I love southerners.


107 posted on 02/02/2005 8:50:51 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Mo1

Sessions is laying it down........."they have to be killed"


108 posted on 02/02/2005 8:51:08 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1
I just got back. Am I correct in understanding that they are going to hold up this vote until tomorrow?

Pretty risky tactic, with President Bush having the national attention tonight.

109 posted on 02/02/2005 8:51:13 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: OXENinFLA
Sessions is laying it down........."they have to be killed

But, but how will that win their hearts and minds.

110 posted on 02/02/2005 8:52:05 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Mo1
He always states the facts and makes the liberals look like ninnies at the same time

hehe...Prime example is when he was talking about the Gun liability bill and said something to the effect of.............."If someone bashes another person's head in with a soup can do we sue Campbells?"

111 posted on 02/02/2005 8:54:14 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1
Yep ... Durbin is getting his talking notes from the Leftie Loons sites

Wonder who on his staff wrote this speech?

Did you hear Durbin talk about how this memo ended up causing the "torture" in Iraq. Then later he read the article of the UCMJ that specically prohibits torture, then he read Army training manual which states torture is prohibited.

So he stated that the military law and military training of the soldiers at abu ghraib specifically forbids torture, but somehow a legal memo in the Justice dept. caused those soldiers to go against that training and military law.

The guy is such a fool he undercuts his own arguement and doesn't even realize it.

112 posted on 02/02/2005 8:54:54 AM PST by federal
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To: OXENinFLA

Yep, Chappy it was. Dike Pond Road.


113 posted on 02/02/2005 8:55:05 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Mo1
OH BOY, now Sessions is gnawing at Bobby Kennedy's legacy! Saying that he some of his investigations of people were unconstitutional.

Take that Teddy!

114 posted on 02/02/2005 8:57:09 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Miss Marple
Pretty risky tactic, with President Bush having the national attention tonight

Yes it is .. but the far left is very close to splitting up the party and the Dems can't afford to lose their base

The Leaders of the Dem party are walking on a tight rope ... which way they fall is still up in the air

But if I was to guess ... they will fall even further left

Don't forget about that memo from Moveon.org ... They bought and paid for the Dem Party and they think the own it now

115 posted on 02/02/2005 8:58:20 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: federal
The guy is such a fool he undercuts his own arguement and doesn't even realize it.

That's because they don't think

116 posted on 02/02/2005 9:02:43 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Miss Marple; Mo1

It's nothing but pettiness; they are going to deny Gonzales his seat at the SOTU tonight.


117 posted on 02/02/2005 9:05:21 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

He actually NAMED RFK??


118 posted on 02/02/2005 9:06:50 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: txrangerette

Perhaps you know Mr. Gonzales personally.

I do not.

All I can go by is what I have read that others have said about him, and by the personal credentials of his critics.

Michele Malkin is pretty much a well respected authority on our illegal alien problems and our immigration issues. These are very serious problems which not only impact our national security, but also go to the very heart of protecting and maintaining our American culture and identity - we are an inclusive society which takes a lot from every ethnic group which has come here, without permitting any one ethnic group to so overwhelm our society that it attempts to redefine America as just another clone of that particular ethnic group. The flood of Hispanic illegal aliens coming into our country now is doing just that.

I see Mr. Gonzales' background with La Raza and his attitude and George III's attitude towards the intolerable invasion we are suffering from here - primarily, but certainly not exclusively due to Mexico - as no resolution to those ills. On the contrary, these two men will exacerabate them.

I view bilingualism as a threat to our national identity. None of my ancestors were from English speakiing countries, but they came here, learned English and wanted to be Americans - not non-Anglos speaking non-English languages. I find it particuarly offensive the way the government and businesses pander to non-English speaking arrivals instead of expecting and requiring them to learn and communicate in our common tongue in public life.

I am not charmed by Mr. Gonzales' use of Spanish in Congress, any more than I would be charmed by Rehnquist's use of Norweigan, or Mr. Scalia's use of Italian, or Mr. Thomas' use of Swahili from the Congressional floor.

I find it totally unacceptable.

I have read that Mr. Gonzales supports affirmative action. I view affirmative action as a pernicious, degrading, divisive, insulting and un-Constitutional evil. Nor am I alone in that respect. Many other individuals, a good number of them "minorities" feel the same way.

I read that Mr. Gonzales is pro-choice which makes him pro-abortion in my book.

I don't like assault rifle bans. There have been lengthy discussions on this subject but these laws have no impact whatever on crime and they violate the very spirit of the Second Amendment - which Mr. Gonzales as Attorney General should be obligated to defend.

Were Mr. Gonzales to be considered for any other position than Attorney General of the United States, the chief law enforcement official of the Counrty, these would all be minor issues.

But given the nature and magnitude of the position for which he is under consideration, I feel he is totally unqualified for that post.

I believe George III's motivation on this appointment has far less to do with selecting the best man for the position and far more to do politics and personal feelings.


119 posted on 02/02/2005 9:07:34 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Howlin

I heard it myself, almost fell off my chair. I had just turned it on, and heard him mention it and saying (paraphrasing) JFK appointed RFK, and that wasn't close? Something to that effect.


120 posted on 02/02/2005 9:10:03 AM PST by hipaatwo (Go Eagles!!!!)
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