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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO FEBRUARY DAILY THREAD 2005: TERRI IS OUR VALENTINE!
Free Republic and various sources | December 30, 2004, January 31, 2005 | Florida Voter

Posted on 01/31/2005 9:14:49 PM PST by TAdams8591

*Michael, HAVE A HEART !!!!!For Valentines Day give Terri back to her MOM & DAD, The Schindlers!!!!!!!!*

The Terri Schindler Schiavo Daily Threads are created month to month as we watch local and national news regarding Terri and her family.

Since Terri's supporters are in every time zone, you may see something FIRST. Please share news with us that you don't see here already. Now, why would you want to do that? Terri's Daily Thread for September/October of 2004 was viewed over 15,000 times. Terri's November Daily Thread was viewed over 6,000 times. December's thread is over 3,000 views. January 2005 Daily Thread was a RECORD HIGH!!!!!!! 15, 103 VIEWS!!!!!!

More and more good folks are finding out about Terri and that judicial tyranny would take her life, but for lots and lots of prayer and non-stop lobbying of relatives, friends, clergy, our leaders, the media, a passerby, a cashier - ANYONE who you feel comfortable chatting with.

Folks always want to know how can this be in America or on earth for that matter? Unfortunately, this is really happening to an innocent woman who just celebrated her 41st birthday. She's not the only one but she's the one with devoted parents and siblings who knows what's in Terri's heart. Terri has a strong will to live. That's apparent. It's been 14 years.

Besides, feeding tubes have been around practically since the Civil War. They are not high tech devices. Terri is "not hooked up to machines". Her feeding tube is the diameter of a piece of spaghetti.

Talkin' about Terri is the best way to lobby for her. It is a salespitch to save her life and subsequently, many lives. If you've never sold anything in your life, START NOW. START WITH TERRI.

See Terri's flash movies if you need more information. You can see for yourself that's she's interactive and follows the doctor's instructions.

Visit: http://www.terrisfight.org

NOTE: Terri's December Dailies are noted as a source above. There are lots of important links at the very top of that thread. If you missed Terri's Celebration of Life, you can click on it from there.

AGAIN WE HAVE A NEW RECORD: 15,103 views on the tote board for the Terri Schindler Schiavo January Daily Thread!

The most significant event in Terri's case in January, was the Supreme's Courts refusal to hear Governor Jeb Bush's appeal, after the Florida State Legislature struck down Terri's Law. This once again places Terri's life in extreme jeopardy, though there are other issues regarding her case before the court.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 3branches; abuse; baird; civilrights; dayincourt; dohscandal; dueprocess; euthanasia; flagcrist; flahouse; flasenate; greer; jebbush; judgegreer; paleopticnerv; right2counsel; schiavo; schindler; starvation; terri; terrischiavo; uscongress
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To: cyn

Okay… I’ll talk About Terri Schiavo… Once!


February 25, 2005




by J.B. Williams




I have been inundated with requests from readers to speak out on this topic, sign and forward a petition, one supporting her parent’s wishes, another allegedly supporting her wishes, as communicated by her husband and legal guardian Michael Schiavo.

Until today, I have declined to inject my personal thoughts into this discussion. There is little in this world more difficult or personal than the decisions facing the Schiavo family today. My knowledge on this matter is limited to press reports in which, as a general rule, I have no confidence at all today.

Unlike anyone else with whom I have come into contact, I prefer not to enter this discussion because I simply do not have any answers, only questions. I have not met Terri Schiavo, her husband or her parents. I am not a doctor and I have not examined her or even read a medical report of her current condition. Where I come from, collectively, this makes my opinion near worthless… which is why I’d rather not give it. However…having established my disclaimer…

For those of you unfamiliar with my previous work, I am strongly anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia.

But it’s clear (at least in my mind) that we are not discussing either abortion or euthanasia here. If Michael Schiavo was attempting to accelerate the death of his wife by some medical procedure designed to extinguish the life of one who would otherwise live without the help of any machine, that would be euthanasia and my position would be clear.

I am to understand that this is not the case. We seem to have assisted life taking place, not assisted death…

We are having this national debate simply because two concerned sides of Terri’s family are unable to agree on a proper course of action relative their loved one’s condition. As a result, the courts have been asked to act as arbiter in the matter and we find ourselves caught up in a very real drama with very real consequences.

I relate best to the parent’s position. As a parent, I’m sure I would feel exactly as Terri’s parents do, if in similar circumstances. If I could find a single doctor anywhere (and we know I could), willing to give my child a 1% chance at life, I would fight tooth and nail for that chance, as they are.

On the other hand, without benefit of first hand knowledge, I must allow at least the possibility that Michael Schiavo is truly attempting to carry out his wife’s final request. I must recognize how difficult that decision and process would be for anyone in his position, assuming honorable intentions.

The courts exist for just such an occasion, when two or more concerned parties are unable to agree. Once again, the courts have failed and this is an area of the debate I feel able to comment upon…not from a legality angle, but from a judicial obligation angle.

The court now has an obligation to all parties concerned, but most of all to Terri and it appears to me that the courts have miserably failed these people, Terri in particular.

First, it is my understanding that the courts have disallowed any medical opinions from the parent’s side of the debate. If this is true, it should be a crime. This would mean that all this time, the courts have been ruling with benefit of effectively only one medical opinion, the one allowed before the court by Michael Schiavo’s attorney, who happens to be a euthanasia attorney. (No small mistake)

One would think that in a life and death decision, all medical opinions should be allowed and respected. This does not appear to be the case and this represents the first failure of the courts.

Second, since we know what Michael Schiavo’s doctors have said and can assume that the parents would be able to find doctors willing to give an opposing diagnosis given the opportunity; this too would lead us back to the courts.

As this drama has unfolded over a period of years now, multiple courts have ruled in every direction available, leaving the family even more deeply divided than when they began.

In looking at this case, I have but one question…

Why has no court ordered a full “independent” medical evaluation of Terri Schiavo?

We know both sides can find a doctor somewhere to support their position. We also know that the family is unable to make this decision together. We know that the courts have a poor bed-side manner and are not qualified to arbitrarily make this medical decision.

So why has no court ordered the establishment of a “independent” medical review panel, made up of 3 to 5 respected medical professionals acceptable to both parties, to evaluate the true condition of this beautiful lady whose life hangs in the balance?

I can’t take a side in this debate because I do not have all the facts, neither do you and apparently, neither does any court since they have not ordered them into evidence.

As an aside, those of you who think courts should be making medical decisions better be paying close attention to this case. If you think the government, any branch, is capable of making life and death medical decisions on your behalf, you better take a close look at what is going on here…

I can’t sign a petition for either side in good conscience, any more than I can tell you with any certainty whether or not Michael Jackson is a pedophile, or just a child at heart. I simply don’t know…

I am suspicious of both Michael Schiavo and Michael Jackson, but only on the basis of demonizing press reports, in which I have little faith. Who could argue with the parents? The parents are doing what any loving parent would want to do.

The courts have been asked to help these people find a just resolution to the toughest of decisions and so far activist judges have played only an activist roll on both sides of the debate.

The court has an obligation to help Terri and her family resolve this matter.

Send me a petition demanding the court properly engage in the matter with a full independent medical review and I’ll sign it… We the people should only be demanding the truth, which is not yet visible.

But don’t ask me to make a life and death decision for another, not on the basis of the limited questionable information available at large… I’ll pass!


Copyright ©2005 JB Williams All rights reserved.


J.B. Williams

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J.B. Williams is a political commentator. Visit his website at jb-williams.com.

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/w/jbwilliams/2005/williams022505.htm


3,581 posted on 02/24/2005 9:42:58 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: Canadian Outrage

In my opinion this was a last minute try by Governor Bush to try and help Terri....however, I think the judge has more power that the DCF and Greer might make the ruling on Terri tomorrow by fax (the coward) and he might then rule on the DCF next week. I honestly hope I am wrong and since I live in Ohio, there is a darn good chance that I am wrong.


3,582 posted on 02/24/2005 9:43:59 PM PST by ruoflaw
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Email JB Williams

http://jb-williams.com/contact.htm


3,583 posted on 02/24/2005 9:46:07 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: Scoop 1; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; 8mmMauser; a5478; Annie03; atruelady; Brad's Gramma; Calpernia; ...

Terri ping to 3553! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


3,584 posted on 02/24/2005 10:24:28 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

goodnight


3,585 posted on 02/24/2005 10:27:17 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: ruoflaw

my bedtime too!


3,586 posted on 02/24/2005 10:29:44 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Scoop 1

A Prayful & Good Night Bump for Terri..."Our Valentine!"



3,587 posted on 02/24/2005 10:36:26 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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Post #3553 bump!


3,588 posted on 02/24/2005 10:59:01 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: All; cyn; FL_engineer

Thanx for that post. I copied a bit of it here (in quotes):

"If you don't live in Florida, and you don't know anybody in Florida, then by
all means, let your own representatives on the federal level, at least KNOW
your concern. So that perhaps in some way, some things can be discovered, that
can be done on a federal level.

But let your lawmakers know that you are deeply troubled and concerned about
this problem.

And then there's another angle, there's another dimension to this.
I told you that I SAW Terri. I was in to see her twice. I saw her once in September
and I saw her once just a couple weeks ago.

And she communicated. She's alert. We prayed. She follows everything thats
happening in the room with her eyes, turning her head, smiling. When I was in
there with her parents, her dad leaned over to kiss her, and she made the motion
to kiss him back..."

I think Father Pavone has a good idea to let our reps know on the Federal, because it could happen in ANY state. I've heard that it already is happening to some elderly people.

I also strongly believe that whether we live in Florida, or not, we should contact the Governor, FL legislators, et al. so they know that the entire country, and even the world is watching them.


3,589 posted on 02/24/2005 11:24:50 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Sun
Judge Greer's decree to starve Terri has NO AUTHORITY. People must REFUSE to starve her!!!!!!!
3,590 posted on 02/24/2005 11:28:13 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (Michael Schiavo is dying to see our Terri die.)
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From "Terri Big Eyes" video available at http://www.terrisfight.org

Terri starts out apparently asleep. A doctor wakes her to start his tests.

Doctor: Terri. Open your eyes up...

Terri: (Startled at hearing her name. She starts moving her mouth and fluttering her eyes, like a person who is just waking up)

Doctor: Open your eyes, Terri open your eyes

Terri: (slowly at first, Terri struggles to open her eyes, then turns toward the doctor, and opens her eyes a normal amount)

Doctor: There you go, good.

Terri: (then, either to show off(?) or wanting to perform well, she leans further forward toward the doctor, looks straight at him and opens her eyes as WIDE AS SHE CAN. Note the WRINKLES ACROSS HER FOREHEAD caused by her also RAISING HER EYEBROWS as high as possible )

Doctor: [now obviously impressed] GOOD!! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB YOUNG LADY! Good Job.





3,591 posted on 02/24/2005 11:42:20 PM PST by cyn
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To: Sun; Chocolate Rose; FL_engineer
FL engineer's photo series "Terri Big Eyes" is worth a thousand words.

Hit "view replies" on it & print it out to send out to anyone who needs to see it.

3,592 posted on 02/24/2005 11:47:31 PM PST by cyn
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To: cyn; TheBrotherhood

I heard that Terri's husband will only allow that one video of Terri to be viewed on tv.

How can he stop the news media from getting better videos at Terrisfight.org? Does he control the "freedom of the press?"

I don't get this.


3,593 posted on 02/24/2005 11:55:58 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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I'm gathering some news media e-mail addresses and phone #'s for anyone to use as they see fit. If anyone knows anymore, please add, & I'll keep working on it myself.

FoxNews 888-369-4762 (Press 4 to complain)
nbcshows@nbc.com
NETAUDR@abc.com
thisweek@abc.com (because this is rather political)
audsvcs@cbs.com - phone 212-975-3247 (I think you can talk with a real person between 10-11:30 a.m.)
newstips@wnyt.com (NYS's capital district)
FoxNews - See Post #2682 for contact info.
Sean Hannity's producer - James.Grisham@abc.com
Fr.West@priestforlife.org


3,594 posted on 02/24/2005 11:57:18 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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Opps, my mistake. Father West is not from the news media, but answers my e-mails to him the majority of the time.


3,595 posted on 02/24/2005 11:59:50 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Sun; Chocolate Rose
'How can he stop the news media from getting better videos at Terrisfight.org? Does he control the "freedom of the press?" '

As I understand it, Michael exerts total control over who is allowed access to Terri under the guise of protecting Terri's dignity and privacy. No one can see her who is not on her visitors list. No photos can be taken of Terri without his approval.

GRETA ON NOW __

3,596 posted on 02/25/2005 12:02:47 AM PST by cyn
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Father Frank's homily on Terri Schiavo
3,597 posted on 02/25/2005 4:07:05 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: Chocolate Rose

LOL join the crowd baby! Only your hairdreser knows for sure!!


3,598 posted on 02/25/2005 4:59:18 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< www.theEmpireJournal.com http://ripe4change.4-all.org)
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To: Scoop 1; All

I'm still getting my caffeine intake for the morning, so excuse me if the answer to this question is obvious. Who would call a grand jury since there are so many who are implicated in this?


3,599 posted on 02/25/2005 5:08:02 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< www.theEmpireJournal.com http://ripe4change.4-all.org)
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To: cyn

Sorry, will do.


3,600 posted on 02/25/2005 5:08:34 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< www.theEmpireJournal.com http://ripe4change.4-all.org)
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