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MARINES dissed in Washington DC bar -- UNBELIEVABLE story
friend ^ | January 30, 2005 | self

Posted on 01/30/2005 5:44:22 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly

Edited on 01/30/2005 7:45:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

A good friend called me a few hours ago terribly upset. Her two sons, both United States Marines, were in Washington DC last night (Saturday) with their dates. They went to the Hawk and Dove, which is a Capitol Hill watering hole.

Now before I go any farther here, understand that I know these two Marines and these are really good kids, hardly the rowdy type -- both went through OCS and are just not the troublemaking types.

At any rate, they were NOT ALLOWED entry into the Hawk and Dove. They were told that the military WAS NOT WELCOME and that especially was true for MARINES.

Is your blood boiling yet???? Mine is. I cannot reveal who these Marines' parents are, but let me tell you, my Freeper brethren, this is a patriotic family who has done much for our nation. (Their mother spends many weekends at Walter Reed with the injured soldiers and even had a house full of them over for Thanksgiving.) I'm telling you, this is an extraordinary family that has given much in service to our country.

So here's the deal. I want this bar to know of our displeasure with their disrespectful behavior toward these two young Marines.

At the very least, I'd like to see a round for these young men on the house and a profuse apology from the owner.


TOPICS: US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: anamericansoldier; hateamericafirst; hatingmilitary; hawkanddove; jimroblist; marines; semperfi; stupidliberals; terrorwar; verifythentrust; waronterror
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To: Raycpa

No it's not right IMHO. You son would deserve to be served and judged on his own merits. Just like these young men. Period.


22 posted on 01/30/2005 8:03:22 PM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: Raycpa

Isn't that a kind of bigotry, holding all Marines accountable for the actions of some?


23 posted on 01/30/2005 8:03:39 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Christine Fraudoire is not my governoire.)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Just keep getting the word out about this and I'm sure the hole-in-the-wall dive will have an out-of-business sign on their door or, they'll apologize. There's no excuse for treating our military like that. Grrrrr BUMP
24 posted on 01/30/2005 8:04:07 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Congratulations to the Iraqi people on their first step toward democracy!. God Bless our military!)
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To: farmfriend

Thanks for the ping.


25 posted on 01/30/2005 8:06:17 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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http://www.hawkanddoveonline.com/


26 posted on 01/30/2005 8:07:14 PM PST by Doofer
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To: All

I have been told that Laura Ingraham has contacted one of the Marines involved in this and she will be talking about this tomorrow.


27 posted on 01/30/2005 8:09:42 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (Want to join the judicial nominations battle? Go to www.fairjudiciary.com!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
While the Hawk 'n' Dove only rated a 90-second appearance on the television series 'The West Wing,'

Why am I not surprised?
28 posted on 01/30/2005 8:10:27 PM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: Doofer
Ya beat me to it.

Need to contact them and see what the true "poop" is.

29 posted on 01/30/2005 8:10:27 PM PST by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Isn't that a kind of bigotry, holding all Marines accountable for the actions of some?

If they consistently cause problems ? Yes.

In addition, when this happened where my son was stationed, he and his fellow Marines were confined to the base for month as punishment and guess what ? He was never part of it. So, the Marines held all of them accountable for the actions of a few.

30 posted on 01/30/2005 8:10:53 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: auboy
"Far more doves than hawks belly up to the central rectangular bar"

That pretty much explains it doesn't it? Looks like they don't want any Hawks to hurt the Doves, so they don't let people who look like hawks in. Also notice the reference to The West Wing, or the Left Wing, another indication of their political leanings. The place is libby hangout, tell the Marines they wouldn't like it there and to find a real bar. The more I think about it the more I think it is a compliment to not be welcome in the place.
31 posted on 01/30/2005 8:11:11 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: ConservativeGadfly

According to reviews, the food and service has gone way downhill. Sounds like their courtesy has too.


32 posted on 01/30/2005 8:11:20 PM PST by auboy
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To: StarCMC
No it's not right IMHO. You son would deserve to be served and judged on his own merits. Just like these young men. Period.

Sure he does but the owner deserves to have a peaceful bar too.

33 posted on 01/30/2005 8:12:55 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: ConservativeGadfly

Have you got the telephone number of the resturant by any chance? Maybe this would be a good story for a local TV or radio station to investigate.


34 posted on 01/30/2005 8:14:21 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: Raycpa

Perhaps, the barkeep would ban Blacks because statistics show a higher rate of incarceration?


35 posted on 01/30/2005 8:14:44 PM PST by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: mystery-ak

No, but if it's like the other Capitol Hill Bars, it's a hang out for high rollers and unless you're connected, or dressed in a $5,000.00 suit, you're not getting in. I say we make some reservations in the name of Bill Moyers and Michael Moore for a party of 50 :-)


36 posted on 01/30/2005 8:15:02 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: Raycpa
You are comparing receiving discipline from an authoritative rank to a civilian operation refusing service?
37 posted on 01/30/2005 8:15:13 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

For the last 10,000 years civilians have been dissing the military.
And for 10,000 years mothers have been outraged because of it and men in uniform have held their heads up high and walked elsewhere.
Or went in anyway and busted the place up. :-)

There isn't a vet on this board who hasn't been through this.

Semper Fi
USMC 73-75


38 posted on 01/30/2005 8:15:16 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (I am now a "SNAPDRAGON" Part of me has lost its snap and the other part is draggin')
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To: Pajamajan

In WWII, and other times too, bars like this were put off limits to military. I think most were in foreign countries, but what the heck--parts of DC are both a foreign country and a war zone. Bet they would not like to lose ALL their military patrons.

And, I, too, think you don't get barred because of the actions of others. What if they tried to bar blacks because some rowdy blacks caused trouble there--never happen, of course, but it holds just as true for these marines as for blacks. This is profiling.

vaudine


39 posted on 01/30/2005 8:15:18 PM PST by vaudine
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Sounds like a 'clique joint' to me.

Our Marines can find someplace that would honor them instead of spending their money and time with a bunch of snobs!

40 posted on 01/30/2005 8:15:23 PM PST by LADY J
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