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Darwin put to flight in Bible Belt [Evolution vs. Creationism]
Times of London ^ | 30 January 2005 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 01/29/2005 6:54:41 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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This is what I've been talking about -- linking creationism to Bush and the Republican party. A very serious situation.
1 posted on 01/29/2005 6:54:43 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 01/29/2005 6:56:03 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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It is not serious. It isn't going anywhere of any substance. And the Bush mandate had nothing to do with the evolution thingie. Chill out, and be happy.


3 posted on 01/29/2005 6:56:15 PM PST by Torie
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This is what I've been talking about -- linking creationism to Bush and the Republican party. A very serious situation.

That the majority of American citizens would actually have a say in what gets taught to their kids is indeed a very serious situation. One that I hope continues.

That evolutionists have been pushing plans to start as early as kindegarden in indoctrinating kids into evolution so that they won't question it when they are older is despicable.

4 posted on 01/29/2005 6:59:24 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: PatrickHenry

Bound to happen sooner or later. However, the creationists, in their ill-concieved rush to exploit their illusionary "mandate", will have only themselves to blame for whatever happens next.


5 posted on 01/29/2005 7:01:06 PM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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I just spent $90 last week buying videos for my kids to counter all the evolutionary crap they are getting fed.

That's not an expense I should have to incur. The school should at least acknowedge that more than one theory exists.

www.e316.com has very reasonably priced creation science videos. They aren't nearly as slick as the stuff the other side has, but it should at least let the kids keep an open mind.

6 posted on 01/29/2005 7:05:01 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: PatrickHenry

So it begins.


7 posted on 01/29/2005 7:05:53 PM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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Those who oppose evolution should make an effort to understand what they're arguing against.
The Theory of Evolution. (Excellent introductory encyclopedia article.)

It would also be useful to learn what science is: The scientific method, and What's a Scientific Theory?

8 posted on 01/29/2005 7:06:01 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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Of course, it's not just the religion of evolution that the schools teach in opposition to Christianity.

I had to tell my daughter when she was in kindergarden about Islamic suicide bombers, because the dang school taught her that Ramadan was good because Muslims gave to the poor.

I shouldn't have had to have that conversation with them either. But as long as the anti-Christians are pushing their agendas in the elementary schools, our choices are to either counter it with the truth or yank the kids out of the public schools.


9 posted on 01/29/2005 7:08:16 PM PST by DannyTN
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"The school should at least acknowedge that more than one theory exists."

When another exists, they will.

They are NOT required to teach as science any religion's creation mythology.

NINETY scotts for those videos? Wow, 'ol P.T. barnum was a seer.

10 posted on 01/29/2005 7:09:01 PM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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Religious fundamentalists — or “theocons”

Oh, YAY, another media cliche of mental shorthand! Hoo-freakin'-ray.

11 posted on 01/29/2005 7:10:17 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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in Wisconsin, Missouri, Mississippi, South Carolina, Montana and Pennsylvania, where one educational district has already placed stickers in biology textbooks with the warning that evolution is a theory rather than a fact. It plans to appeal against a recent court decision ordering the schools to remove them.

Actually, that is in Georgia that the "sticker" lost.

So much for the scientific accuracy of this article.

12 posted on 01/29/2005 7:13:31 PM PST by Martin Tell (Red States Rule)
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To: DannyTN

Sounds like Hovind is $90 richer. :) :) :)


13 posted on 01/29/2005 7:13:33 PM PST by Ben Chad
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He'll need it for the tax bill he's got coming ;)


14 posted on 01/29/2005 7:14:56 PM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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creation science

Creation science? Could you give me a pointer or two to a valid scientific study that tested the ID hypothesis and found it had merit based on independent observations?

15 posted on 01/29/2005 7:16:04 PM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: Ben Chad
Sounds like Hovind is $90 richer.

Could have saved the money. All you need to know about creationism is available free:
Big Daddy?
Apes, Lies and Ms. Henn.
Primal Man?

16 posted on 01/29/2005 7:16:29 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Long Cut
"They are NOT required to teach as science any religion's creation mythology."

Yes they are. They are required to teach Evolution's creation from random chance mythology. They shouldn't be teaching any religion in the elementary schools, but there they are pushing the religion of evolution.

NINETY scotts for those videos?

They ranged $9-$13 a piece. I got one on where dinosaurs fit with creation, one on the origin of life, a couple on incredible animals that defy evolution, one on evidences in favor of the flood, one on time, and three others that may not be related.

17 posted on 01/29/2005 7:18:04 PM PST by DannyTN
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For 3000+ quotes by atheist scientists on how bad the evidence is for evolution, big-bang cosmology, etc...

http://shop4.gospelcom.net/epages/AIGUS.storefront/en/product/10-2-086

For 120 qutotes by atheist scientists on how bad the evidence is for evolution ...

http://shop4.gospelcom.net/epages/AIGUS.storefront/en/product/10-2-035


18 posted on 01/29/2005 7:19:29 PM PST by ROTB
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To: PatrickHenry
This is what I've been talking about -- linking creationism to Bush and the Republican party. A very serious situation.

I'm afraid you may be right. The risk is that from there, the GOP would be vulnerable to being portrayed as some kind of flat earth society.

I have no problem if ID is taught in Sunday school, comparative religion, or philosophy class. But calling ID a scientific theory and teaching it as such in biology class is too much. A long list of complaints about the modern synthesis of Darwinism is NOT a scientific theory.

When ID people propose some falsifiable hypotheses and test them with credible results, then we can talk about whether it is a legitimate scientific theory. At the moment, it is a bunch of scientific word salad wanting the rights and privileges of a theory without paying its dues.

19 posted on 01/29/2005 7:19:36 PM PST by freespirited
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Yet Guenther has no problems with teaching children about intelligent design. “Evolution is definitely not a theory — it is a fact.

Saying it over and over does not make it so, evolution is one of the most foolish belief systems known to man.
20 posted on 01/29/2005 7:21:35 PM PST by captain anode
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