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To: PatrickHenry
This is what I've been talking about -- linking creationism to Bush and the Republican party. A very serious situation.

I'm afraid you may be right. The risk is that from there, the GOP would be vulnerable to being portrayed as some kind of flat earth society.

I have no problem if ID is taught in Sunday school, comparative religion, or philosophy class. But calling ID a scientific theory and teaching it as such in biology class is too much. A long list of complaints about the modern synthesis of Darwinism is NOT a scientific theory.

When ID people propose some falsifiable hypotheses and test them with credible results, then we can talk about whether it is a legitimate scientific theory. At the moment, it is a bunch of scientific word salad wanting the rights and privileges of a theory without paying its dues.

19 posted on 01/29/2005 7:19:36 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
The risk is that from there, the GOP would be vulnerable to being portrayed as some kind of flat earth society.

Stick around. That's exactly what's going on. This creationism stuff has the potential to destroy what could otherwise be a generation of Republican government.

21 posted on 01/29/2005 7:22:53 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: freespirited
(At the moment, it is a bunch of scientific word salad wanting the rights and privileges of a theory without paying its dues.) Not true my friend, Many, many scientists, have sided with ID. No the flat earthers are the envrio-evolutionists who are loosing control of the media monopoly.
25 posted on 01/29/2005 7:26:48 PM PST by captain anode
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To: freespirited
The risk is that from there, the GOP would be vulnerable to being portrayed as some kind of flat earth society.

I've been hearing this for years. Perhaps those saying so were only prescient.

60 posted on 01/29/2005 8:19:10 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: freespirited
At the moment, it is a bunch of scientific word salad wanting the rights and privileges of a theory without paying its dues.

BUMP

66 posted on 01/29/2005 8:30:49 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: freespirited
---- The risk is that ......... the GOP would be vulnerable to being portrayed as some kind of flat earth society.

......and that's never happened before!!

84 posted on 01/29/2005 9:28:15 PM PST by cookcounty (I'm an intelligent design ---you can speak for yourself.)
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To: freespirited
A long list of complaints about the modern synthesis of Darwinism is NOT a scientific theory.

Do you believe that it is fair to teach the criticism of Darwin?

87 posted on 01/29/2005 9:43:24 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: freespirited
The ID crowd is eventually going to lose because scientists and biology teachers ultimately are in charge of their field. The more the IDers push this and the closer they appear to winning some actualy concrete victories, the more the scientific community will awaken and resist. In no other academic field would it be considered acceptable for outsiders without training to set the curriculum for those with training. That is why the teacher in Dover, Pa refused to read the assigned statement. What a farce it is to have some nonscientifically trained administrator read it! The longer this is prolonged, the bigger and more embarassing will be the ID defeat, and the greater will be the damage to the Right.

This country has a healthy skepticism of intellectuals, which is the result of the failure of the largely left wing intellectuals of the soft sciences who have been setting public policy for the past several decades. But that doesn't skepticism doesn't translate into the hard sciences.

209 posted on 01/30/2005 12:09:15 PM PST by ValenB4
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