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Court: Immigration status can have role in sentencing
Arizona Daily Star - CAPITOL MEDIA SERVICES ^ | 01/29/05 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 01/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PST by SandRat

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Huzzah!

Some Judges are starting to get it.

1 posted on 01/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PST by SandRat
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Finally a legal ruling with some common sense.


2 posted on 01/29/2005 7:28:47 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Finally, some sanity from our courts.


3 posted on 01/29/2005 7:39:59 AM PST by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: SandRat

Is this the same Miranda that I think it is?


4 posted on 01/29/2005 8:00:22 AM PST by Dr. Marten
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A breath of fresh air. Come here illegally and commit crimes and we won't rap your knuckles, we'll chop off a few fingers. This is the way it should be and will be an incentive for the criminally minded to stay the f out of America


5 posted on 01/29/2005 8:04:48 AM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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Miranda said both Friday's ruling and Thursday's committee action are signs that the nation's immigration laws need to be reformed.

Indeed. And it looks as if this judge agrees.

6 posted on 01/29/2005 8:06:19 AM PST by angkor
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To: Dr. Marten

Could be, I'm not sure.


7 posted on 01/29/2005 8:13:58 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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This is on top of a report on Wednesday or Thursday that they can deny bail on felonies before trial if it is an illegal charged with it, because the illegal is a flight risk.


8 posted on 01/29/2005 8:16:40 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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This is on top of a report on Wednesday or Thursday that they can deny bail on felonies before trial if it is an illegal charged with it, because the illegal is a flight risk.

This is only in an Arizona jurisdiction. This should apply across the USA. Build tent cities in Michigan for illegal aliens who are up on felony charges. I am fresh out of compassion for foreign bred criminals.

9 posted on 01/29/2005 8:22:18 AM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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To: SandRat

States need to reinstitute work-farms. Put them to work earning their keep, rather than lying around all day long.


10 posted on 01/29/2005 8:27:32 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: SandRat

Agreed.


11 posted on 01/29/2005 9:30:40 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Dr. Marten

Don't know!

Who do you think it is?

Miranda vs Arizona?

In that case. NO!


12 posted on 01/29/2005 9:42:13 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: SandRat
Good news indeed.

For interesting reports about this invasion of illegals, go to the Star's Border News.

There seems to be a new euphenism being tried out - two articles referred to an "illegal entrant". Guess they just can't make than quantum jump to "alien".

Note also that the Border Patrol is temporarily grounding their two drones. A revealing comment "In all, the Border Patrol made nearly 500,000 apprehensions in the Tucson Sector last fiscal year. Zortman attributed the low number of apprehensions to the slow season for illegal migration . . .

Then there was the good news that Asa Hutchinson has resigned from Homeland Security because he was twice passed over.

13 posted on 01/29/2005 10:14:32 AM PST by Oatka
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""There is a critical distinction between immigration status as it relates to nationality and immigration status as it relates to illegal activity," Eckerstrom wrote. "Placed in context, the trial court's remarks here were clearly directed at Alire's disregard for the laws of this country."


Isn't that refreshing!!!

Here's some more on Criminal illegals from Dobbs last night:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0501/28/ldt.01.html
An estimated 100,000 illegal aliens in this country have been convicted of crimes committed in this country, other than their illegal status, of course, yet most of them remain at large. Special Immigration and Customs Enforcement teams are now trying to hunt down those illegal aliens one by one.

Dan Lothian reports from Brockton, Massachusetts.

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DAN LOTHIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On the trail of convicted illegal immigrants, federal agents with the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement unit, or ICE, are getting ready to move in on a Dominican national in Fall River, Massachusetts. They say he served time for his crime, but is in this country illegally and is avoiding deportation. MONICO: He's been arrested on several charges, including up to assault and battery, domestic violence. He does have a history of violence.

LOTHIAN (voice-over): An hour later, a Cape Verdean man in the U.S. illegally, agents say, is cornered in the City of Brockton as he walks down the sidewalk. His crime?

MONICO: The initial charge was rape of a child and, again, for whatever reason, it was plea bargained down, but it was a conviction.

LOTHIAN: Just two of more than 100 illegal fugitives in this pile the Boston office is hunting. Nationally, it's estimated 80,000 to 100,000 convicted illegal immigrants are out there.

MARTIN: These people have disregarded their orders to leave the country. They've had an opportunity to be heard in court, and the case was decided against them. So we're pursuing those folks that are just not complying with those orders.


14 posted on 01/29/2005 10:51:16 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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This is on top of a report on Wednesday or Thursday that they can deny bail on felonies before trial if it is an illegal charged with it, because the illegal is a flight risk.

That's very good sense. Illegals committing felonies should never get bail. Illegals committing misdemeanor crimes should be sent home as soon as they get out of jail. Drunk driving, shoplifting --- all those lesser crimes should get them sent home --- no questions, no plea for asylum --- if you can't behave yourself you aren't the type that should be given asylum.

15 posted on 01/29/2005 10:57:46 AM PST by FITZ
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Is there any way we can email this judge to say "Thank You"?


17 posted on 01/29/2005 11:03:22 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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ping


18 posted on 01/29/2005 11:07:29 AM PST by gubamyster
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Japan could have given Mexico and it's citizens a word of advise... something about a sleeping giant.

Mexico has finally pissed off the goose. It's about to find out about a whole different kind of egg. Hint: It involves a face!


19 posted on 01/29/2005 11:11:19 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Marine Inspector; bayourod

I think your misguided friend, bayoufraud has been nailed to the wall by Pima County Superior Court Judge Clark Munger and the Arizona Court of Appeals.

These legal eagles recognize criminals when they see one!


20 posted on 01/29/2005 11:18:42 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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