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Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

Panicked Evolutionists: The Stephen Meyer Controversy

The theory of evolution is a tottering house of ideological cards that is more about cherished mythology than honest intellectual endeavor. Evolutionists treat their cherished theory like a fragile object of veneration and worship--and so it is. Panic is a sure sign of intellectual insecurity, and evolutionists have every reason to be insecure, for their theory is falling apart.

The latest evidence of this panic comes in a controversy that followed a highly specialized article published in an even more specialized scientific journal. Stephen C. Meyer, Director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, wrote an article accepted for publication in Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. The article, entitled "The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories," was published after three independent judges deemed it worthy and ready for publication. The use of such judges is standard operating procedure among "peer-reviewed" academic journals, and is considered the gold standard for academic publication.

The readership for such a journal is incredibly small, and the Biological Society of Washington does not commonly come to the attention of the nation's journalists and the general public. Nevertheless, soon after Dr. Meyer's article appeared, the self-appointed protectors of Darwinism went into full apoplexy. Internet websites and scientific newsletters came alive with outrage and embarrassment, for Dr. Meyer's article suggested that evolution just might not be the best explanation for the development of life forms. The ensuing controversy was greater than might be expected if Dr. Meyer had argued that the world is flat or that hot is cold.

Eugenie C. Scott, Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education, told The Scientist that Dr. Meyer's article came to her attention when members of the Biological Society of Washington contacted her office. "Many members of the society were stunned about the article," she told The Scientist, and she described the article as "recycled material quite common in the intelligent design community." Dr. Scott, a well known and ardent defender of evolutionary theory, called Dr. Meyer's article "substandard science" and argued that the article should never have been published in any scientific journal.

Within days, the Biological Society of Washington, intimidated by the response of the evolutionary defenders, released a statement apologizing for the publication of the article. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education, the society's governing council claimed that the article "was published without the prior knowledge of the council." The statement went on to declare: "We have met and determined that all of us would have deemed this paper inappropriate for the pages of the Proceedings." The society's president, Roy W. McDiarmid, a scientist at the U.S. Geological Survey, blamed the article's publication on the journal's previous editor, Richard Sternberg, who now serves as a fellow at the National Center for Biotechnology Information at the National Institute of Health. "My conclusion on this," McDiarmid said, "was that it was a really bad judgment call on the editor's part."

What is it about Dr. Stephen Meyer's paper that has caused such an uproar? Meyer, who holds a Ph.D. from Cambridge University, argued in his paper that the contemporary form of evolutionary theory now dominant in the academy, known as "Neo-Darwinism," fails to account for the development of higher life forms and the complexity of living organisms. Pointing to what evolutionists identify as the "Cambrian explosion," Meyer argued that "the geologically sudden appearance of many new animal body plans" cannot be accounted for by Darwinian theory, "neo" or otherwise.

Accepting the scientific claim that the Cambrian explosion took place "about 530 million years ago," Meyer went on to explain that the "remarkable jump in the specified complexity or 'complex specified information' [CSI] of the biological world" cannot be explained by evolutionary theory.

The heart of Dr. Meyer's argument is found in this scientifically-loaded passage: "Neo-Darwinism seeks to explain the origin of new information, form, and structure as a result of selection acting on randomly arising variation at a very low level within the biological hierarchy, mainly, within the genetic text. Yet the major morphological innovations depend on a specificity of arrangement at a much higher level of the organizational hierarchy, a level that DNA alone does not determine. Yet if DNA is not wholly responsible for body plan morphogenesis, then DNA sequences can mutate indefinitely, without regard to realistic probabilistic limits, and still not produce a new body plan. Thus, the mechanism of natural selection acting on random mutations in DNA cannot in principle generate novel body plans, including those that first arose in the Cambrian explosion."

In simpler terms, the mechanism of natural selection, central to evolutionary theory, cannot possibly account for the development of so many varied and complex life forms simply by mutations in DNA. Rather, some conscious design--thus requiring a Designer--is necessary to explain the emergence of these life forms.

In the remainder of his paper, Meyer attacks the intellectual inadequacies of evolutionary theory and argues for what is now known as the "design Hypothesis." As he argued, "Conscious and rational agents have, as a part of their powers of purposive intelligence, the capacity to design information-rich parts and to organize those parts into functional information-rich systems and hierarchies." As he went on to assert, "We know of no other causal entity or process that has this capacity." In other words, the development of the multitude of higher life forms found on the planet can be explained only by the guidance of a rational agent--a Designer--whose plan is evident in the design.

Meyer's article was enough to cause hysteria in the evolutionists' camp. Knowing that their theory lacks intellectual credibility, the evolutionists respond by raising the volume, offering the equivalent of scientific shrieks and screams whenever their cherished theory is criticized--much less in one of their own cherished journals. As Dr. John West, Associate Director of the Discovery Institute explained, "Instead of addressing the paper's argument or inviting counterarguments or rebuttal, the society has resorted to affirming what amounts to a doctrinal statement in an effort to stifle scientific debate. They're trying to stop scientific discussion before it even starts."

When the Biological Society of Washington issued its embarrassing apology for publishing the paper, the organization pledged that arguments for Intelligent Design "will not be addressed in future issues of the Proceedings," regardless of whether the paper passes peer review.

From the perspective of panicked evolutionists, the Intelligent Design movement represents a formidable adversary and a constant irritant. The defenders of Intelligent Design are undermining evolutionary theory at multiple levels, and they refuse to go away. The panicked evolutionists respond with name-calling, labeling Intelligent Design proponents as "creationists," thereby hoping to prevent any scientific debate before it starts.

Intelligent Design is not tantamount to the biblical doctrine of creation. Theologically, Intelligent Design falls far short of requiring any affirmation of the doctrine of creation as revealed in the Bible. Nevertheless, it is a useful and important intellectual tool, and a scientific movement with great promise. The real significance of Intelligent Design theory and its related movement is the success with which it undermines the materialistic and naturalistic worldview central to the theory of evolution.

For the Christian believer, the Bible presents the compelling and authoritative case for God's creation of the cosmos. Specifically, the Bible provides us with the ultimate truth concerning human origins and the special creation of human beings as the creatures made in God's own image. Thus, though we believe in more than Intelligent Design, we certainly do not believe in less. We should celebrate the confusion and consternation now so evident among the evolutionists. Dr. Stephen Meyer's article--and the controversy it has spawned--has caught evolutionary scientists with their intellectual pants down.

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R. Albert Mohler, Jr


TOPICS: Philosophy
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To: PatrickHenry
The biggest problem with these computations that take all the mutations that ever happened and then whomp up some kind of factorial result by stringing together all the generations is simply that ... each generation is mathematically on its own!

It is not so much a fallacy as it is a case of people being ignorant of math, and probability theory and statistics is something most people find difficult to get right generally. Heck, I have to think about some of these things very hard to make sure I'm applying the math correctly and I'm supposed to know this stuff.

This particular misapplication of math refuses to die on these threads. The most common invalid uses are the assumption of an isotropic probability space (doesn't exist really but it makes the math *much* easier, never mind the wildly invalid results), and what you allude to above, inverting the size of the phase space and calling it "statistical probability".

If one can get people to acknowledge that the probability space is not isotropic, it will follow from the math that many outcomes are astronomically more probable than the number arrived at by inverting the size of the phase space.

1,421 posted on 02/02/2005 8:28:08 AM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: WildTurkey

So you don't sleep?


1,422 posted on 02/02/2005 8:33:16 AM PST by bvw
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To: MarIboro
LOL...you are really into this alien thing ....I haven't even mentioned an alien.....whasup? :)

Isn't that what this ID thing is all about?

Proof of ID

1,423 posted on 02/02/2005 8:34:26 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: bvw
So you don't sleep?

Yes but plants shut off their respiration at night for greater efficency. Most of us snore the night away.

1,424 posted on 02/02/2005 8:36:04 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

Must have missed that...um...what the hell is it anyway?


1,425 posted on 02/02/2005 8:36:27 AM PST by MarIboro
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To: tortoise
"the probability space is not isotropic,"

An inference of Intelligent Design, that would be.

1,426 posted on 02/02/2005 8:36:34 AM PST by bvw
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To: PatrickHenry
That's a good one, and it's in the same general area of fallacies, but not quite the same as "incorporating the continuum." Here's another example of -- ahem! -- my fallacy: you cut the cards, and then start dealing them out, one at a time. The resulting array has the awesome probability of one in 52 factorial, which is, more or less, one in 8.06581752 × 1067. However, as to any one card's chances, the odds are nowhere near as great.

The phase space may be huge, but the odds of finding a winning hand are much, much better. Which winning hand does not matter.

1,427 posted on 02/02/2005 8:38:10 AM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: tortoise
If one can get people to acknowledge that the probability space is not isotropic,

A recent study showed that most people believed that a bullet shot from a curved barrel would circle back around on them.

1,428 posted on 02/02/2005 8:38:13 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: MarIboro
Must have missed that...um...what the hell is it anyway?

Click on it. If you approved by the Masters of the Universe, Earth Division, their powers will reveal to you the secret.

1,429 posted on 02/02/2005 8:40:37 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
My favorite part of biology is at night. And yes -- I did fall asleep in every class. Except quantum mechanics and advanced numerical methods -- both of which the professors brutally fast pace better matched my wakeing mind.

The question of animal and vegetable is sort of Maxwell's Demon type entropy question, btw. Or one 2atHomeMom might consider. How is that? We have two gases in the same tank. One I'll label animal, the other I'll label vegetable.

Are they at equilibrium? And if at informatiomal-energy (to posit some energy-like metric that measures evolutionary advancement) equilibrium why haven't vegetables eveolved independent motion? Or why did animals?

1,430 posted on 02/02/2005 8:43:42 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Or one 2atHomeMom might consider.

2atHomeMom is a dope and is probably considering which screen name to take next time.

Are they at equilibrium?

I am pretty much at equilibrium with the weeds in my yard but it was a tough two years ...

As for motion, if you don't believe plants can move, have you never seen a dandelion seed pod float in the wind headed straight for your yard?

1,431 posted on 02/02/2005 8:52:48 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Independent directed motion, like we animals are blessed with.

Yes, roots reach for water and nutrients, leaves for the sun -- tumbleweed (approach it carefully!) moves with the wind and so do your seed pods. Yet those motions are not independent.

1,432 posted on 02/02/2005 8:56:36 AM PST by bvw
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To: Doctor Stochastic
It's often an error to assume that malice is necessary when stupidity is sufficient.
1,433 posted on 02/02/2005 9:07:54 AM PST by js1138
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To: WildTurkey; bvw
Why are some living things still sexless.

It seems like just yesterday I was being lectured by a creationist on bacterial conjugation.

Are there, in fact, any living things that have never exchanged or received genetic material?

1,434 posted on 02/02/2005 9:13:53 AM PST by js1138
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To: WildTurkey
Anyone that thinks plants haven't successfully evolved the ability to survive is nuts!

Again, creationist falsely assert that evolution predicts a direction of change or a specified outcome.

Until you get past that misunderstanding there is no hope.

1,435 posted on 02/02/2005 9:17:06 AM PST by js1138
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To: bvw
....why haven't vegetables eveolved independent motion? Or why did animals?

In a nutshell, photosynthesis doesn't give you enough energy to get up and walk - you burn far more energy than the plant, and hence you have commensurately greater energy requirements.

1,436 posted on 02/02/2005 9:17:19 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: bvw
Why are some living things still sexless?

Cause they haven't found the right person yet...

1,437 posted on 02/02/2005 9:19:27 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: general_re

Plants store energy, with a storge mechanism -- or even a digestive adaptation -- they could. Any backing for your hypothesis they they could not?


1,438 posted on 02/02/2005 9:19:57 AM PST by bvw
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To: AntiGuv
the true random odds are infinity divided by one,

Obviously you haven't watched Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy recently.

Infinity minus one is related to the infinite improbability drive.

Speaking of which, sometimes I think what these crevo threads need is a Babel fish, what with all of the talking past each other which goes on here!

Cheers!

1,439 posted on 02/02/2005 9:20:19 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: bvw
Plants store energy, with a storge mechanism -- or even a digestive adaptation -- they could. Any backing for your hypothesis they they could not?

Maybe one species did and it turned out to not be an advantage over other plants so that species died out.

Evolution does not focus on what can or can not happen, it focuses on what is here and how it evolved from earlier processes.

1,440 posted on 02/02/2005 9:24:25 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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