The 'truth' about tobacco smoke

oakridger.com ^ | January 28, 2005 | Ellen Rogers

[T.Smith]

No, it's not my business. I just don't get it. I don't want to convince you to quit, but I would like to know why you don't.

[Madame Dufarge]

Your entire post was drivel

I'll probably never get over this.

Please explain to me how this makes me genocidal

Oh please.

or a socialist

Socialists must engineer society to the paradigm.

That's how you are.

[TexasCowboy]

"I just don't get it. I don't want to convince you to quit, but I would like to know why you don't."

Don't you understand?

It makes me no difference that you don't "get it".

It makes me no difference that you would like to know why.

You are unimportant to my life.

Why is my smoking so important to yours?

[Madame Dufarge]

I found on another thread that if you egg him on ,he will only through insults at you.

He's bordering on psychotic, I'm bordering on psychotic and Irish and am genetically compelled not to back away from a fight.

I figure I have the upper hand ;-)

Anyway, I'm going to bed now, be back in the morning to resume.

[T.Smith]

Dammit, get over yourself. I don't give a flying you-know-what about you personally. I don't give a crap if you smoke. Think of it as research, I just want to know why you would want to smoke. I'm curious, for cryin' out loud. If you don't want to tell me, then STFU.

[SheLion]

Question. Do you believe that there is NO link between smoking and lung cancer?

Smoking Does Not

Cause Lung Cancer

(According to WHO/CDC Data)*

By:  James P. Siepmann, MD

Yes, it is true, smoking does not cause lung cancer.  It is only one of many risk factors for lung cancer. I initially was going to write an article on how the professional literature and publications misuse the language by saying "smoking causes lung cancer"^1,2, but the more that I looked into how biased the literature, professional organizations, and the media are, I modified this article to one on trying to put the relationship between smoking and cancer into perspective. (No, I did not get paid off by the tobacco companies, or anything else like that.)

Article here

[SheLion]

This is the punch line, The doctor who was reading my mri called in another doctor and I asked if something was wrong. He said no, he wanted the other doctor to see me because I moved and looked as if I should be 51 not 71.

Heheh!

[T.Smith]

That means that even using the biased data that is out there, a USWM smoker has only an 8x more risk of dying from lung cancer than a nonsmoker.

That's still 8x more likely to contract a terrible disease that robs you of your ability to breath and causes great pain. Even if it's not 40-50x (I'm still not entirely convinced that it's not), that's still a tremendous increase in risk. How can it be worth it?

[SheLion]

Reformed whores, and all that...

I got news for YOU buckaroo........our First Lady is a smoker! How do you like THAT? Still want to call us WHORES?

PERVERT! How dare you!

[Nooseman]

Good night!

[SheLion]

So much for our friendly discussion.

You couldn't make a pimple on TexasCowboy's butt!

[exnavychick]

Thanks, She Lion. I like having the experts in my corner...or am I in theirs? LOL!

[paulat]

I can't believe the naysayers on this thread!!!

I am in FULL SUPPORT of ALL of the smokers...and I want them to smoke as much as they possibly can!!

NO ONE could want that more than I do.

[VermiciousKnid]

SheLion...look who you're talking to. It's ME!

"Reformed whores" refered to those former smokers who become antis. (Like Christy Turlington)

Regards,

[SheLion]

I'm curious, for cryin' out loud. If you don't want to tell me, then STFU.

YOU STFU you pompous ass!

[SheLion]

That's still 8x more likely to contract a terrible disease that robs you of your ability to breath and causes great pain. Even if it's not 40-50x (I'm still not entirely convinced that it's not), that's still a tremendous increase in risk. How can it be worth it?

It's legal and I enjoy it. Some people love to eat. I enjoy my coffee and cigarettes. How's that!

[exnavychick]

Do you get your kicks out of being randomly unpleasant, or something?

[hosepipe]

Second hand smoke.... "IS FREE"....and un-taxed,,, as of this date -1/28/05..

[paulat]

I am COMPLETELY supporting your right to smoke!!!

[SheLion]

Thanks, She Lion. I like having the experts in my corner...or am I in theirs? LOL!

I have so many links disproving the tactics of smoking and second smoke I can't even find them all. I have done a LOT of research, believe me!

The anti's are just turning the truth into their own lies to continue to rape the taxes from cigarettes out of the smokers to continue lining their pockets.

They are gluttonist pigs!