I'm shocked. Shocked.
Posted on 01/28/2005 8:05:46 AM PST by yatros from flatwater
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Turkey Wins Removal Of Armenian Genocide From German Schools |
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(dpa) - Pressure from Turkey has resulted in the removal of a reference to the Armenian genocide from a German school curriculum, reports said Wednesday.
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I once heard that Hitler knew about this event and used the fact that it was near forgotten by history as impetus to go ahead with the Final Solution. All the more reason to never forget.
And they were killed because they were Christians. Also, gun control measures were introduced right before this genocide happened - seems to be a trend.
So can German influence cause Turkey to disavow the 'other' Holocaust?
Fair is fair, after all.
Nah, just plain ordinary evil after all. In this case, the Armenians lacked the necessary backfire to control the firestorm that government often is, to paraphrase Washington and Jefferson.
Also of note: The Armenian Genocide was spurred on by imams calling for jihad in Turkey. Muslim students played a big part in the "pogroms" that took place in Istanbul against resident Armenians. This wasn't just a "military" genocide, it was religious in nature, since the Armenian Catholics were the first descendants of the Roman Catholic Church.
I'm shocked. Shocked.
"The Turkish government, which denies that a genocide took place, speaks of 200,000 dead. "
Oh! ONLY 200,000 dead.
That makes it SO much better! (sarcm/)
I guess I now understand what George Orwell was talking about. This is lunacy!
"After the government of the Ottoman Empire quickly crushed an Armenian revolt in 1893, tens of thousands of Armenians were murdered by mobs armed and encouraged by the government. As anti-Armenian mobs were being armed, the government attempted to convince Armenians to surrender their guns. [4] A 1903 law banned the manufacture or import of gunpowder without government permission. [5] In 1910, manufacturing or importing weapons without government permission, as well as carrying weapons or ammunition without permission was forbidden. [6]
During World War I, in February 1915, local officials in each Armenian district were ordered to surrender quotas of firearms. When officials surrendered the required number, they were executed for conspiracy against the government. When officials could not surrender enough weapons from their community, the officials were executed for stockpiling weapons. Armenian homes were also searched, and firearms confiscated. Many of these mountain dwellers had kept arms despite prior government efforts to disarm them. [7]
The genocide against Armenians began with the April 24, 1915 announcement that Armenians would be deported to the interior. The announcement came while the Ottoman government was desperately afraid of an Allied attack that would turn Turkey's war against Russia into a two-front war. In fact, British troops landed at Gallipoli in western Turkey the next day. Although the Anglo-Russian offensives failed miserably, the Armenian genocide continued for the next two years. [8] Some of the genocide was accomplished by shooting or cutting down Armenian men. The bulk of the 1 to 1.5 million Armenian deaths, however, occurred during the forced marches to the interior. Although the marches were ostensibly for the purpose of protecting the Armenians through relocation, the actual purpose was to make the marches so difficult (for example, by not providing any food) that survival was impossible. [9]
The Armenian genocide differs from the six other genocides detailed in Lethal Laws in one important respect. Although many Armenians apparently complied with the gun control laws and the deportation orders, some did not. For example, in southern Syria (then part of the Ottoman Empire), "the Armenians refused to submit to the deportation order . . . . Retreating into the hills, they took up a strategic position and organized an impregnable defense. The Turks attacked and were repulsed with huge losses. They proceeded to lay siege." [10] Eventually 4,000 survivors of the siege were rescued by the British and French. [11] These Armenians who grabbed their guns and headed for the hills are the converse to the vast numbers of Armenian and other genocide victims in Lethal Laws who submitted quietly; although many of the Armenian fighters doubtless died from lack of medical care, starvation, or gunfire, so did many of the Armenians who submitted. As was the case of the Jewish resistance during World War II, armed resistance was enormously risky, but the resisters had a far higher survival rate than the submitters."
The amount of effort that Turkey puts forth to deny the Armenian Holocaust is proof alone that it happened, and it was worse than we'll ever truely know.
side point: I thank God that they immigrated to USA and my dad was born here. As immigrants, they allowed only English spoken in their home (by their children) so they could learn USA language and customs!
Great Post! Indeed firearms prohibition is a pre-condition for genocide as witnessed in Armenia, Germany, The Soviet Union, Rwanda...
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership sells an excellent documentary titled Innocents Betrayed, which details the link between firearms prohibition and genocide:
http://www.jpfo.org
To be perfectly fair, an enormous number of Muslims of various ethnicities also died in the same regions of the Ottoman Empire where there was a massive death toll among the Armenians. The Russian invasion and resultant dislocation of the already disorganized government created truly horrible conditions for all.
Some percentage, not all by any means, of the Armenian deaths can be chalked up to the incompetence and inefficiency of the Ottoman Empire, which wouldn't qualify as a third-world "failed regime" today.
"40 Days of Musa Dagh" by Franz Werfel. Read it, doc.Or, read it, doc?
Thanks for the tip, the novel apparently tells of the resistance of those Armenians who refused to surrender their arms.
Adolph Hitler, 1939, as quoted in What About Germany? by Louis Lochner, after he was asked if he wasn't afraid of what history would say about him.
"The so-called 'golden age' of Islam, when Jews and Christians were supposedly treated benignly in a harmonious multi-religious Muslim society, is a carefully contrived historical myth.
"dhimmis -- Jews and Christians under Islamic 'protection' -- concludes that Islamic 'tolerance' had many negative aspects. She maintains it kept Christians, Jews and other conquered 'infidel' peoples in a state of 'dhimmitude' -- a term coined from the Arabic word dhimmi that describes their inferior status."
In other words, only after infidels are conqured and acknowledge that Islam is superior to their own, are Muslims obligated to provide for those whom they have conquored.
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