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The eastern German state of Brandenberg declares its subservience to the Ummah, accepting dhimmi status.
1 posted on 01/28/2005 8:05:47 AM PST by yatros from flatwater
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To: yatros from flatwater

I once heard that Hitler knew about this event and used the fact that it was near forgotten by history as impetus to go ahead with the Final Solution. All the more reason to never forget.


2 posted on 01/28/2005 8:07:03 AM PST by Borges
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To: yatros from flatwater
Most historians say that between 600,000 and 1.5 million Armenians were killed in 1915 and 1916 under the Ottoman Turks during World War I. The Turkish government, which denies that a genocide took place, speaks of 200,000 dead.

And they were killed because they were Christians. Also, gun control measures were introduced right before this genocide happened - seems to be a trend.

3 posted on 01/28/2005 8:08:10 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: yatros from flatwater

So can German influence cause Turkey to disavow the 'other' Holocaust?

Fair is fair, after all.


4 posted on 01/28/2005 8:08:25 AM PST by PeterFinn (Why is it that people who know the least know it the loudest?)
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To: yatros from flatwater

Also of note: The Armenian Genocide was spurred on by imams calling for jihad in Turkey. Muslim students played a big part in the "pogroms" that took place in Istanbul against resident Armenians. This wasn't just a "military" genocide, it was religious in nature, since the Armenian Catholics were the first descendants of the Roman Catholic Church.


7 posted on 01/28/2005 8:16:05 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (This is my tagline.)
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To: yatros from flatwater
Germans denying genocide?

I'm shocked. Shocked.


8 posted on 01/28/2005 8:20:13 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: yatros from flatwater

"The Turkish government, which denies that a genocide took place, speaks of 200,000 dead. "

Oh! ONLY 200,000 dead.

That makes it SO much better! (sarcm/)


9 posted on 01/28/2005 8:20:59 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: yatros from flatwater

I guess I now understand what George Orwell was talking about. This is lunacy!


10 posted on 01/28/2005 8:21:26 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: yatros from flatwater
This evil act by Turkey is equivalent as the Nazis, not admitting their acts of Armenian genocide and holocaust.
16 posted on 01/28/2005 9:06:34 AM PST by Wiz
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To: yatros from flatwater
Bat Ye'or, well known author on "dimmis," wrote the following in her book, "The decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude,"

"The so-called 'golden age' of Islam, when Jews and Christians were supposedly treated benignly in a harmonious multi-religious Muslim society, is a carefully contrived historical myth.

"dhimmis -- Jews and Christians under Islamic 'protection' -- concludes that Islamic 'tolerance' had many negative aspects. She maintains it kept Christians, Jews and other conquered 'infidel' peoples in a state of 'dhimmitude' -- a term coined from the Arabic word dhimmi that describes their inferior status."

In other words, only after infidels are conqured and acknowledge that Islam is superior to their own, are Muslims obligated to provide for those whom they have conquored.

20 posted on 01/30/2005 2:55:18 AM PST by Doctor13
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To: yatros from flatwater
Aside from the genocide of 3.5 million Christians being slaughtered in Asia Minor by Turks, (1.8 Armenians; 1.7 Pontic Greeks,) there were over 750,000 Assyrians who were also murdered by our friends, the Turks.

HELLENIC GENOCIDE

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"There is an effort by the Greek government to remove the offending word, "Genocide" and referring to the massacre of Greek martyrs in Asia Minor at the hands of Turkish forces as a "Catastrophe." Other reports state that the term "Genocide" would also be referred to as a "Devastation." Does the Greek government actually believe that by doing so it will incur the appreciation of the Turkish government? And which is it to be? Is it a "Catastrophe," or is it a "Devastation?" Either way, the fact that Greek Christians also bore the wrath of Muslim Turks and were slaughtered under hideous and barbaric conditions, "Catastrophe" or "Devastation" is merely a slap on the wrist and an insult to the memory of those Greek martyrs.. "

Please go to the link provided above to read HELLENIC GENOCIDE: Was it a "Catastrophe," or a "Devastation?" by Stella L. Jatras

21 posted on 01/30/2005 3:31:42 AM PST by Doctor13
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