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Illinois Teens Murder & Dismember Classmate
http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=2861855 ^

Posted on 01/27/2005 5:17:39 PM PST by NativeTexun

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To: NativeTexun
Horrors! All mom had to do was give us of those "looks" and we knew we'd better "straighten up and fly right."

Isn't that the truth. This new story is disturbing and reminds me of the lesbian one. It stuck in my mind at the time. Maybe because my dad is in his 70's and I know he would do anything for his kids and grandkids. These people were trying to do their best for their granddaugher. Like you said, how horrible to know you are being killed by your own grandkid. Found more pictures of the lesbians and grandparents and a little more detail to the story at this site. I was hoping to find out if they had been sentenced yet. At this site it says the most they can get is life in prison. Too bad.

Bruce Jordan told reporters Holly laughed at the amount of police attention garnered by her double-murder. "She was callous and cocky. She is the coldest and most heartless individual I've ever interviewed. It almost made her giddy to know we had brought that many people to arrest her," Jordan said.

61 posted on 01/27/2005 9:54:38 PM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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To: NativeTexun

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_harvey.html

Oops here's the site.


62 posted on 01/27/2005 9:56:00 PM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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To: beaversmom

Very depressing!


63 posted on 01/27/2005 10:17:52 PM PST by NativeTexun ("If you don't live in Texas, you don't live in the United States.")
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To: DocRock

Thanks!


64 posted on 01/27/2005 10:18:59 PM PST by NativeTexun ("If you don't live in Texas, you don't live in the United States.")
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To: NativeTexun

They had some pyschologist in the article I read last summer basically stating you have to feel sorry for the granddaughter--she's just lost her grandparents. That's the kind of idiocy and misplaced sympathy that's producing the monsters we are seeing in these stories.


65 posted on 01/27/2005 10:23:39 PM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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To: Inkie

I seriously doubt that any of these kids were ever exposed to Yukio Mishima.


66 posted on 01/27/2005 10:26:21 PM PST by shibumi (Every adult citizen should be permitted concealed carry.....of a tactical nuclear weapon)
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To: beaversmom

>>They had some pyschologist in the article I read last summer basically stating you have to feel sorry for the granddaughter--she's just lost her grandparents.<<

He obviously checked his brain at the door! Did he remember that she "lost" them because she killed them?

>> That's the kind of idiocy and misplaced sympathy that's producing the monsters we are seeing in these stories. <<

Total insanity!



67 posted on 01/27/2005 10:29:12 PM PST by NativeTexun ("If you don't live in Texas, you don't live in the United States.")
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To: elli1

Another 'drop-out'!


68 posted on 01/27/2005 10:30:53 PM PST by midnightson (Mama-the ultimate prognosticator- said there'd be days like this.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

You get the rope, I'll make the popcorn, we'll find someone with a video recorder.

A good old public hanging. Film at 11.

While we're at it, MAKE them show it on MTV!


69 posted on 01/27/2005 10:35:35 PM PST by djf
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To: Brian328i
other girl must have gotten mad that she lost all the guys...

They must have been pretty hard up, If I had a dog that looked like Kolb... Well, you know...

70 posted on 01/27/2005 11:18:57 PM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: flada

Oh, your wife's from the Quad Cities?

Sorry...statements like the one you made are as stupid as the one I just made and about as truthful.


71 posted on 01/27/2005 11:27:09 PM PST by KimmyJaye (Susan Estrich: A face for radio and a voice for pantomime.)
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To: FITZ

I agree. Excellent idea.


72 posted on 01/27/2005 11:31:35 PM PST by KimmyJaye (Susan Estrich: A face for radio and a voice for pantomime.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Agree. She came here to start over and that's what gives me the 'willy's' too. Fate.


73 posted on 01/27/2005 11:33:40 PM PST by KimmyJaye (Susan Estrich: A face for radio and a voice for pantomime.)
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To: Max in Utah

"You sound like a secretary I had. Thank goodness she's gone now"

Thanks, you prove that your secretary was viewed as a dime a dozen.

:P


74 posted on 01/28/2005 6:01:46 AM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

"These people should get the death penalty.
I don't want to hear that they are "kids". They knew exactly what they were doing."


I agree, they're gruesome excuses for human beings. It was horrible enough that they killed another human being but they dismembered her too! Sick evil garbage.


75 posted on 01/28/2005 6:04:33 AM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: midnightson

Another 'drop-out'!

Some pretty normal kids can end up being drop-outs or kicked-outs & in alternative schools. (Consider, for one, some of the draconian 'zero tolerance' rules in the public school system.) Problem is that some seriously abnormal/ dangerously psychotic ones are there as well.

76 posted on 01/28/2005 8:31:15 AM PST by elli1
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To: beaversmom

Found some more information on Sarah Kolb at:

http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_id=1044442&l=1&t=Local+News&c=2,1044442

Kolb had been a student at Rock Island High School, where former classmates categorized her as “a Goth” who often wore all-black clothes and black-and-white makeup.
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“She very much stood out in school,” said Auston McLain, 19, a former classmate. “Sometimes she was gay and sometimes she was bi(sexual).
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“Her mom is so nice — very smiley, very supportive of Sarah being a lesbian,” he said.
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Others at the Outreach Center, however, described Kolb as being jealous of Reynolds because she was catching the eye of so many boys at the school.
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Authorities are not yet prepared to share their theory on why the girl was murdered.


77 posted on 01/28/2005 9:30:44 AM PST by NativeTexun ("If you don't live in Texas, you don't live in the United States.")
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To: ericthecurdog

oh this is lovely, my hometown... ping.


78 posted on 01/28/2005 9:34:09 AM PST by GreenEggsNHam (Hey... what if the hokey pokey really IS what it's all about?)
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To: elli1

Very true. I ended up in an alternative high school myself. I fell behind on credits when I got sick and then from just kind of giving up on the idea of catching up. I wasn't a drop out, a druggie or violent. I had two parents who actually talked me into doing that INSTEAD of dropping out and getting my GED.

Going to the alternative school enabled me to make up six and a half credits in less than two quarters and allowed me to graduate on time with a 3.8 GPA. They aren't all losers.

The punks that did this, however, are scum, and probably would have been so no matter what school they had attended, imo.


79 posted on 01/28/2005 9:35:45 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: SunnySide
Boys don't care if girls had brown paper bags over their heads as long as they put out. So my message to girls is don't kill each other over "silly" uncaring boys. It's not worth it. In the minds of most boys and men females are viewed by them as a dime a dozen.

Moronic post of the day award.

80 posted on 01/28/2005 9:39:48 AM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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