All right, who really killed JFK?

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[jjtwo]

another author claims to know not only who killed Kennedy, but also who ordered the killing. His title says it all: "Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K." (Hanover House, 480 pages) by Barr McClellan, a former partner in the law firm that represented Lyndon Johnson.

McClellan is making a bid for entry into the circle of conspiracy theorists that advance the so-called "deep politics" model, which blames corruption at the core of virtually all American institutions for misdeeds ranging from the killing in Dallas to Watergate to Iran-Contra. He claims "inside information" that lays bare the JFK plot, spearheaded by the head of his former law firm, long-time Johnson associate Edward Clark.

[MEG33]

Actually, Oliver Stone taught me all I need to know/s

[Rockingham]

Here's my take on the LBJ did it theory after reading McClellan.

In addition to other corruption, LBJ was deeply implicated in the massive, headline grabbing Billie Sol Estes scandal. A federal Agriculture Department investigator was gathering and would soon have sufficient evidence for a prosecution of LBJ -- with his enemy Bobby Kennedy to have a decisive role in the decision.

LBJ correctly feared that his world was about to come crashing down. So the Ag Department investigator was murdered before he finished his investigation and a corrupt Texas sheriff and judge arranged a verdict of suicide. This much is well-established and McClellan's book cannot be justly faulted for repeating it.

In addition, McClellan recounts his experience as an attorney in the law firm that represented LBJ in his election rigging extensive corrupt dealings, eventually learning that the head of the firm had engineered the JFK assassination and cover up. Supposedly, the head of the firm used the support of Texas oil interests and a hit man named Malcolm Wallace, whom he had also used to kill the Ag Department investigator and who also killed a too talkative former brother in law of LBJ.

Oswald seems to have become known to the plotters through petroleum geologist George de Morenschildt. Oswald was recruited based on his Marxist beliefs and set up to take the fall as the putative lone assassin. Ruby killing Oswald seems to have been an improvisation after Oswald slipped the police net and the intended fatal, blaze of glory shoot out.

With LBJ as President, and his longtime friend and ally J. Edgar Hoover able to control the investigation, incriminating evidence was ignored or destroyed. LBJ repeatedly floated the plausible Castro-did-it line, with a warning that public knowledge of it would lead to a nuclear war. Various CIA and FBI lapses and embarrassments relating to Oswald and other matters like anti-Castro plots helped assure their participation in a cover up based on their bureaucratic interests, but neither agency was involved in the assassination.

Key parts of McClellan's account rest on slender and equivocal evidence, with much depending on his battered personal credibility. In some instances, McClellan has taken up dubious assassination claims simply because they fit with his account. But there is one stunning item of information from McClellan that I have never seen directly refuted: the identification of Malcolm Wallace's fingerprint on a box at the sniper's nest in the Texas School Book Depository.

This sole unidentified fingerprint has long been a mystery. The match to Malcolm Wallace was supposedly made by a renowned expert unaware of the JFK assassination link. IN a few years, when automated fingerprint matching software develops further, the validity of that identification will be easier for non-experts to assess.

For me, McClellan's LBJ did it theory is more credible in concept than most of the assassination conspiracy theories. That Oswald acted alone is also plausible, but there is far too much credible and troubling evidence against that to accept it as conclusive. When Lady Bird croaks we may learn more. McClellan claims that in his last months, LBJ decided that he wanted the truth told, and the death of his widow may prompt the release of dispositive information.

[jjtwo]

finally, someone who gets it. all the rest of you must think about what rockingham says here..............Please...

Personally, i watch austin tx news stations just to hear the news first............................ when someday they announce that "lady bird is dead jim"

[mad_as_he$$]

Not this sh$t again. I have settled this MANY times! JFK was killed by Marlboro Man and Keyser Soze. WE will only now the truth when Soze is killed. I do not believe he can be killed so we will never get the answer. MM was in the sewer drain and Soze was on the Grassy Knoll - INHO. I have taken two shots at Soze the latest being in Kabul in July last year; hit him dead center SOB walked away./humor off (for the humor challenged)

[mad_as_he$$]

lol love it!

[mad_as_he$$]

I always laugh at the guys who try to make hay on the TS stuff. I had TS at one time becasue I repaired some equipment that went INTO a machine at Sandia that I NEVER saw.

[Shooter 2.5]

[Ditter]

LOL! No wonder you are confused.

[MEG33]

"Actually, Oliver Stone taught me all I need to know/s"
Did you miss the subtle sarcasm /s at the end?

[Ditter]

No.

[clooney4824]

Hey Mad Ivan-Great to see you here again-been awhile. Always love your posts!!!

[MEG33]

I was having a bit of fun...I almost did not put the tag on it...but alas my sense of irony is misunderstood at times.

[Ditter]

LBJ did it. ;9)

[MEG33]

Didn't either..neener neener. :)

[Ann Archy]

Thank you for the info....even when it happened, when I was 15, I thought LBJ did it because he seemed to be the WINNER TAKES ALL when JFK was murdered.

[Rockingham]

Can you imagine if what we know now was known in late 1963, early 1964? Consider the headlines below:

JFK ORDERED CIA TO USE MAFIA IN ASSASSINATION PLOTS AGAINST CASTRO

FIDEL SPEECH IN HAVANNA WARNED OF RETALIATION FOR MURDER PLOTS AGAINST HIM

ON DAY OF KENNEDY ASSASSINATION, CUBAN OFFICIAL MET WITH CIA TO PLOT CASTRO DEATH

FBI AGENTS IMPROPERLY DESTROYED THREATENING NOTE FROM OSWALD

KENNEDY INVOLVED IN COUP PLOT AGAINST DIEM, KNEW DEATH LIKELY

RECORDS OF MYSTERIOUS OSWALD TRIP TO MEXICO CITY KEPT FROM CIA FILES

POSSIBLE OSWALD "DOUBLE" IN MEXICO CITY HINTS AT CONSPIRACY

CUBAN EXILE CLAIMS THAT HE SAW OSWALD WITH SENIOR CIA AGENT IN DALLAS

JOHNSON MISTRESS CLAIMS THAT LBJ TOLD HER IN EARLY NOVEMBER THAT HE WOULD SOON BE PRESIDENT

ZAPRUDER FILM INDICATES THAT JFK MAY HAVE BEEN SHOT FROM FRONT

JFK AFFAIRS WITH MAFIA WOMEN AND MARILYN MONROE BROUGHT POTENTIAL FOR BLACKMAIL

SECRET SERVICE AGENTS SHOCKED AT KENNEDY AFFAIRS AND ASSOCIATES

JOHNSON POLITICAL CAREER BUILT ON ELECTION FRAUD, PUBLIC CORRUPTION

DEATHS OF AG INVESTIGATOR AND JFK SPARED JOHNSON FROM PROSECUTION IN BILLIE SOL ESTES CASE

LBJ DECLINED SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION IN MONTHS PRIOR TO DALLAS

LAWYER FOR JOHNSON CLAIMS ASSASSINATION PLOT AGAINST KENNEDY

FINGERPRINT OF KILLER LINKED TO LBJ FOUND AT DALLAS SNIPER'S NEST

FBI HEAD HOOVER DESPISED KENNEDY AND IS LONG TIME FRIEND, NEIGHBOR, AND ALLY OF JOHNSON

DOCTORS DISAGREE OVER LOCATION AND NATURE OF JFK HEAD WOUNDS

FBI COACHED WARREN COMMISSION WITNESSES, URGING THAT DISCREPANCIES WITH LONE ASSASSIN ACCOUNT BE LEFT OUT TO SPARE KENNEDY FAMILY

KENNEDY AUTOPSY, MEDICAL RECORDS SHOW HEALTH POOR, THAT HE SUFFERED FROM ADRENAL FAILURE AND VENEREAL DISEASE

PHOTOS, OTHER EVIDENCE FROM DALLAS AND JFK AUTOPSY MISSING

TOP FORENSIC EXPERTS DISAGEE OVER AUTOPSY CONCLUSIONS

The cumulative effect of such disclosures in the first few months after the assassination would have utterly upended the American government. The public would have demanded a thorough investigation with all the evidence on the table.

Even if cleared of the JFK assassination, honest and effective scrutiny of Johnson would have put him out of office and into prison, sending the country into shock and political turmoil similar to what we experienced due to Watergate. If Johnson was shown to have killed Kennedy, the effects would have been far worse, wrecking the reputation and confidence of the US in the midst of the Cold War.

If Johnson did set the JFK assassination into motion, he and his conspirators would have been uniquely placed to create and exploit various true and false trails leading to the CIA, Cuba, and the Mafia. Those agencies would then have covered up to protect themselves and desperately clutched to the lone assassin official account. Even the Kennedy family and loyalists would be complicit for the sake of JFK's memory, which is still extraordinarily valuable for them and the Democratic party.

Did Johnson kill Kennedy? The claim is more substantial than most people are willing to accept. Every time I try to reject it, I keep coming back to that fingerprint in the sniper's nest and the way that so many loose ends make sense if Johnson was responsible. Or maybe Oswald did act alone, with everything else just the undigested flotsam of history.

[Once-Ler]

Who GAINED from JFK's death....hmmmm

American Mint - America's Most Beloved President in 24-kt. Gold

[Beckwith]

He had a TS clearance because U-2s flew out of NAF Atsugi from time to time, not because he was some secret agent

I understand.

[Conspiracy Guy]

Thanks

[stockpirate]

Other freepers have pointed me to the post at 65, check it out.