Posted on 01/25/2005 6:15:41 PM PST by gobucks
Thank you. I have been reading several threads these past few weeks where many many freepers basically say "evolution is "more than fact" - but you don't see them add your thoughtful rejoinder.
It has been quite illuminating....
Exactly. When I studied Music Theory I was not reviewing someone's hypothesis about musical structure, I was having music and composition explained to me.
"Theories explain sets of facts."
Maybe, perhaps, if, probably, possibly, etc...........
It has always baffled me how any scientist could refute the scientific method, a foundation that has been the basis of progression of every science known to man. Before the scientific method most science was bunk; based on conjecture, coincidence, and papal decrees. And what do you know, this article pretty much covers the gamut with evolution. ROFLMFAO!!!
Ok, again, what you are describing is evidence not facts. Theories explain evidence, which when the evidence holds up in testing and research becomes fact, facts then help validate theories, which eventually, in very very few cases become what is know in science as a Tautology, or truth. If you studied the scientific method you would know this.
My problem with evolution is that it's junk science.
We can argue the issue all day, and we often have. But there's enough doubt about the General Theory of Evolution so biology books should present it as a theory, not a fact. I don't see why that is so difficult to accept. I have no problem with teaching kids about evolution, which is now an important part of modern intellectual history. But it really should be taught as a theory.
Even if evolution becomes discredited as science, it still should be taught as an important piece of scientific and intellectual history, like phrenology or racial theory.
Of equal interest is the effect that evolutionary theory has had on politics and other fields. It was largely responsible for the euthanasia movement under the early Communists and under Hitler, for instance. That's not Darwin's fault, but "survival of the fittest" has undergone some pretty nasty political turns.
It was also responsible for the widely held view that Africa and Asia were full of "lesser breeds," a commonly held view a hundred years ago. Again, not Darwin's fault, but part of the big picture.
Where are the deer? And rabbits?
BTT (broken twig trailmarker)
1. You are confusing the word "theory" with "hypothesis." Dictionaries note that the popoular use of the word "theory" is "conjecture, guess." Science has a different meaning for the word -- "theory" is "a systematic statement of principals involved, as in the theory of equations in mathematics." Natural selection is a fact -- How do you think viruses and bacteria become immune to vaccines? Evolutionary theory does what Quantum Theory or Music Theory does -- it explains interactions.
2. What about the arrogance of theologians, who are as mortal, subjective, and interested as any scientist, pretending to be the end-all and be-all as to how the rest of us mere peons interpret the Bible? Nothing in evolution negates the moral teachings of Christ, the seven deadly sins, the ten commandments, etc. Evolution doesn't challenge God, it challenges men.
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No Finny, you were having the theories behind what makes music and composition explained to you. But, of course like evolutionists, it was apparently crammed down your throat as fact. This is very disturbing as the science of music is in many areas constantly advancing and now even being connected to mathematical theories such as chaos and string theory. Music theory, just like evolution is just that and will probably remain a theory.
Insightful. I would add another subject to the list that should be taught to kids as part of the big picture of evolution and its historical impact: eugenics and an honest biography of Margaret Sanger.
Bwah - ha hahahah!! Good one!
So anyone know if this guy's book "Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search for Common Ground Between God and Evolution" is any good?
Theistic evolutionist need to look beyond Genesis to realize He set this place up for immediate inhabitation. Vegetables and all.
There is a whole lot of twisting going on to reconcile the Bible to a faulty interpretation they sell as science.
String theory!! You mean the one that just added another dimension so that it doesn't come, ahem, untied? (It is now up to 12 dimensions!! Darwin would be proud of his fellow 'scientists').
The science of music. never gave this much thought before ... got any interesting links?
{{Speaking of links, a golfer once wrote long ago: "science is the art of elimination" *(sounds of struggles to contain chuckling....*)}}
Yep, like inside out. I suspect it will get worse before it starts to get better. Here is my prediction: it will already be getting better once the divorce rate begins to fall.
That was exactly Einstein's famous sentiment: "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details."
Facts are details. Theories are thoughts.
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