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Bush's Devil Hand Symbol Shocks European Viewers
Houston Chronicle ^ | 1/21/05 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/24/2005 3:11:14 AM PST by M 91 u2 K

'Hook 'em, 'horns' gesture lost in translation Associated Press

OSLO, Norway — President Bush's "Hook 'em, 'horns" salute got lost in translation in Norway, where shocked people interpreted his hand gesture during his inauguration as a salute to Satan.

That's what it means in the Nordics when you throw up the right hand with the index and pinky fingers raised, a gesture popular among heavy metal groups and their fans in the region.

"Shock greeting from Bush daughter," a headline in the Norwegian Internet newspaper Nettavisen said above a photograph of Bush's daughter Jenna, smiling and showing the sign.

For Texans, the gesture is a sign of love for the University of Texas Longhorns, whose fans are known to shout out "Hook 'em, 'horns!" at sporting events.

Bush, a former Texas governor, and his family made the sign to greet the Longhorn marching band as it passed during the inaugural parade through Washington during Thursday's festivities, Norway's largest newspaper, Verdens Gang, explained to its readers.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; devil; europe; eurotrash; euroweenies; hookemhorns; inauguration; satan; w2
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To: M 91 u2 K

Imagine how "shocked" they'll be when they actually feel another old Texas symbol: a boot up their pansy, socialist ass!

Screw Europe.


61 posted on 01/24/2005 5:43:11 AM PST by Don Simmons (Annoy a liberal: Work hard; Prosper; Be Happy.)
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To: MortMan

LOL...

1 trimester ugrad and then came back as grad student. Wouldn't have came back, but RIT was the only school that offered both the necessary services for the deaf and the degree I wanted.

The many, many disgusting stories I could tell you... but RIT did more than anything else to convince me that liberalism is insanity.


62 posted on 01/24/2005 5:44:36 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: teezle
So you guys assume that people in Norway would know the sign of the Texas University Longhorns?

No dear, we "guys" don't assume any such thing. They assumed the Bush family was flagrantly flashing a Satanic sign.

Who is stupid in this story?

63 posted on 01/24/2005 5:45:14 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: M 91 u2 K
Even if it were a Satanic hand symbol, why does it shock the Europeans? Majority of them are self-proclaimed atheists so wouldn't the existence of Satan go against their spiritual beliefs?
64 posted on 01/24/2005 5:45:53 AM PST by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: teezle
I know it is in Holland, the UK, .. and Norway.

Which nicely proves my point.

65 posted on 01/24/2005 5:47:18 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: teezle
BTW, to further expound on the concept here: The Europeans see the sign. To them it means something Satanic. Instead of them *assuming* that's what it means here, common sense would dictate that a smart populace would think "Oh, I wonder what it means over in the U.S.? Obviously it means something else over there."

I mean, really...DUH

66 posted on 01/24/2005 5:47:22 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: fini
"...hand gestures mean different things around the world."

How true. The hand with the two outer fingers raised is also a warding against evil sign. The "OK" sign with the thumb and forefinger touching in a circle is an insult in South America.

67 posted on 01/24/2005 5:51:13 AM PST by Truth29
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To: sam_paine

Thanks. I knew it was similar.


68 posted on 01/24/2005 5:54:06 AM PST by mathluv
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To: M 91 u2 K; MotleyGirl70
"Don't mess with the Devils, buddy. We're number one, we beat anybody! We're the Devils! The Devils!! Haaaa!!!"

Father Hernandez: "El Diablo! Dios mio! El Diablo!!"


69 posted on 01/24/2005 5:56:09 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Hatteras

That would be appropriate. After all, UT is in Austin, which is Berkely on the Colorado.


70 posted on 01/24/2005 5:56:14 AM PST by mathluv
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To: endthematrix

To clarify, maybe he should say something??

I would have been shocked about it, since I don't live in Texas and never been there. My backround tends to be that hand gesture means what the article says.


71 posted on 01/24/2005 5:57:39 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens)
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To: M 91 u2 K

As a UT Alumni and a citizen of Texas, the sight and sounds of the UT Marching band warmed my heart on a cold and windy day. To hear them crank up "The Eyes of Texas" brought a tear to my eye and a song to my heart.

The norwegians will get over it.....Hook'em Horns


73 posted on 01/24/2005 6:11:27 AM PST by Leofl (I'm from Texas, We don't dial 911)
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To: Truth29

Haha! I've seen a commercial here in Holland about a guy travelling around the world using that sign until ending up in South America.


74 posted on 01/24/2005 6:21:23 AM PST by teezle
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To: teezle
So you guys assume that people in Norway would know the sign of the Texas University Longhorns?

No, but if your press wasn't so lazy, they could have taken five minutes out of their busy schedules of assuming things and passing it on to their readers. A small amount of research would have revealed the truth about what the gesture meant within the context in which it was made.

But NO, Euro papers get headlines along the lines of "BUSH MAKES DEVIL SIGN AT INAUGURATION".

But yes, the presidents adviser in charge of obscure European hand signals dropped the ball here. The sooner the president learns to cater to the fine folks in Norway, the better.

APf

75 posted on 01/24/2005 6:26:46 AM PST by APFel (The left are to people as wolves are to sheep.)
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77 posted on 01/24/2005 7:03:16 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( The Year of Freeping Dangerously)
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To: M 91 u2 K

I'm guessing that Norway doesn't have a seperation of church & State if this hand signal has something to do with Satan.


78 posted on 01/24/2005 7:06:16 AM PST by A Cyrenian
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To: M 91 u2 K

Where I grew up, that gesture meant Bull S**t.


79 posted on 01/24/2005 7:06:21 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: APFel
But NO, Euro papers get headlines along the lines of "BUSH MAKES DEVIL SIGN AT INAUGURATION".

Haha! It's one little newspaper in Norway and you guys are chit-chatting (?) about it for hours. Generalisation is a wonderful thing!

Damn! You've got presedential advisors for obscure European hand signals? Now I understand the demand for smaller government in the USA!
80 posted on 01/24/2005 7:11:32 AM PST by teezle
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