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Bush's Devil Hand Symbol Shocks European Viewers
Houston Chronicle ^ | 1/21/05 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/24/2005 3:11:14 AM PST by M 91 u2 K

'Hook 'em, 'horns' gesture lost in translation Associated Press

OSLO, Norway — President Bush's "Hook 'em, 'horns" salute got lost in translation in Norway, where shocked people interpreted his hand gesture during his inauguration as a salute to Satan.

That's what it means in the Nordics when you throw up the right hand with the index and pinky fingers raised, a gesture popular among heavy metal groups and their fans in the region.

"Shock greeting from Bush daughter," a headline in the Norwegian Internet newspaper Nettavisen said above a photograph of Bush's daughter Jenna, smiling and showing the sign.

For Texans, the gesture is a sign of love for the University of Texas Longhorns, whose fans are known to shout out "Hook 'em, 'horns!" at sporting events.

Bush, a former Texas governor, and his family made the sign to greet the Longhorn marching band as it passed during the inaugural parade through Washington during Thursday's festivities, Norway's largest newspaper, Verdens Gang, explained to its readers.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; devil; europe; eurotrash; euroweenies; hookemhorns; inauguration; satan; w2
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To: M 91 u2 K

Some people are so stupid. Everyone, I mean everyone, totally missed what Bush and his family where doing with their toes.


42 posted on 01/24/2005 4:47:58 AM PST by isthisnickcool (What do they do in the mosque on days when the guys in the front row have gas?)
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To: M 91 u2 K
I know it is asking too much, but you would think that people would realize that hand gestures mean different things around the world. For instance, in Greece waving your hand palm forward is a nasty gesture. Just as words can have two completely different meanings in different cultures, so can hand gestures.

If a reporter really desired to do an interesting article, then this would be a great topic. But I guess I'm asking too much.

43 posted on 01/24/2005 5:14:14 AM PST by fini
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To: floridarolf; M 91 u2 K
In 50 years, when this handsign isn't associated with the Texas Longhorns anymore,...

Ha! In fifty years, UT will have about 250,000 students/semester and will have its own air force. The devil himself will perish before the University of Texas is no longer associated with Longhorns!

44 posted on 01/24/2005 5:21:43 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: teezle
So you guys assume that people in Norway would know the sign of the Texas University Longhorns?

No, but why do the people in Norway (and Europe) assume that President Bush knows their hand signals? Is multiculturalism a one-way street? Haven't we learned that things need to be considered in the context of the locale in which they occur?

45 posted on 01/24/2005 5:22:22 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Alex Jones is as squirrely as they come...and wouldn't you just know that he lives somewhere here in Texas. Or at least used to. He's not someone I give very much credibility.


46 posted on 01/24/2005 5:22:56 AM PST by Maria S
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To: MortMan

5 years at RIT. You're a masochist.


47 posted on 01/24/2005 5:23:43 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: mathluv

Dude. Hang loose is thumb and pinky extended. Dude.


48 posted on 01/24/2005 5:24:16 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Defendingliberty

"The Gator chop in Norway = I will crush your head in a vice. T he Seminole war chant in Norway = ahhahhahahahahhhhhh = I just but my tongue"


I wonder what they'd say about the Aggies' hand signal? But then again...who gives a flying flip?


49 posted on 01/24/2005 5:24:27 AM PST by Maria S
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To: M 91 u2 K

Europeans are so backward and unsophisticated.


50 posted on 01/24/2005 5:27:59 AM PST by rabidralph (Congratulations, Pres. Bush and VP Cheney!)
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To: Nataku X

I prefer to say I was institutionalized for 5 years - LOL. I graduated in '89 with a BS in Computer Engineering Technology.


51 posted on 01/24/2005 5:28:22 AM PST by MortMan (Be careful what you wish for... You might get it!)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Hey, you Nordic hippies, I have a sign for you!

52 posted on 01/24/2005 5:29:00 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: M 91 u2 K
The Viking Kitties should slap every one of these Norse idjuts in the head with a herring.

Leni

53 posted on 01/24/2005 5:31:10 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: TonyRo76

Don't the U of Wyoming Cowboys have any hand signals that VP Cheney could start flashing to get the Euroweenies all riled up?

I think they may do a 'guns up' at Wyoming. If not, he could just play the role of a Texas Tech fan for completeness and do a guns up when the President's family is doing all their hand signs.


54 posted on 01/24/2005 5:35:38 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (You have seen that life is fragile, and evil is real, and courage triumphs -- George W Bush)
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To: NonValueAdded

Ok, than I am making the same mistake as as them... Is the gesture not an international sign for Satan? My fault!
I know it is in Holland, the UK, .. and Norway.


55 posted on 01/24/2005 5:36:13 AM PST by teezle
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To: MortMan

Institutionalized is right... ahhh, who wouldn't miss the elevator masturbator, grab-@@@ day, Socialist Club propaganda posters, regular fights breaking out in the lobby of TA, and forced to room with a kleptomaniac in the mental wards, errr, residence halls...

Congrats on making it through. You must have skin like an armored tank.


56 posted on 01/24/2005 5:37:02 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: Nataku X
You know, there is just something about a bunch of European atheists getting upset about a "devil" sign, that, I don't know, just seems rather manufactured to me.
57 posted on 01/24/2005 5:39:20 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Nataku X
Congrats on making it through. You must have skin like an armored tank.

My wife might say it was my SKULL that was thickly armored... LOL. You sound like you spent some time at the brickyard, as well. Did you?

58 posted on 01/24/2005 5:40:00 AM PST by MortMan (Be careful what you wish for... You might get it!)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Well, it's obvious what must be done. The University of Texas must ban this gesture so as not to upset the Norwegians. It's the right and politically correct thing to do. We don't want to alienate our European neighbors, do we?....... WELL?!


59 posted on 01/24/2005 5:40:40 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: M 91 u2 K

I have seen several different versions of this story and isn't it interesting how the headlines keeps saying how Bush displayed a "Satanic" or "devil" sign and then the article explains how it was no such thing.

Why (of course, I know why) isn't the headline "College sign confuses Europe" or some such? With the article explaining what the oh-so sophisticated and more learned than we Americans THOUGHT it meant?

And the media wonders why they are reviled.


60 posted on 01/24/2005 5:41:42 AM PST by cyncooper
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