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Biden Says He Is Leaning Against Gonzales Confirmation
WP ^ | Jan. 23, 2005 | Reuters-WP

Posted on 01/23/2005 12:53:14 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: Howlin
I can decide for myself what the most important priorities for this country are. That isn't near the top of the list.

I'm disappointed to hear this from you. The supporting the RKBA is the cornerstone of conservatism. Without it, everything else is irrelevant.

161 posted on 01/23/2005 5:33:10 PM PST by jmc813 (The Jets have broken my heart)
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To: bayourod
The only people on FR that I've seen criticize Gonzales are the same ones who frequent the immigration threads complaining about Hispanic immigrants. And they are a very small minority of FR members. Think there might be a connection? Here we go with the gun owners are racist rednecks crap.
162 posted on 01/23/2005 5:34:52 PM PST by jmc813 (The Jets have broken my heart)
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To: FairOpinion

Too bad....his party is out of power and will be for a long time. Joe Biden is irrelevant in politics. He can pontificate all he wishes....only democrats care what he has to think about things.


163 posted on 01/23/2005 5:36:13 PM PST by MissouriConservative ( Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less. - Robert E. Lee)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Best wishes finding a president you agree with 100% of the time on 100% of the issues.

All of us have certain issues which are deal breakers. For many FRepers, it is the 2nd Amendment. For others, it is abortion. For others, it is the war on terror. We can comprimise on other issues, but will not on ohers. It's human nature.

164 posted on 01/23/2005 5:37:06 PM PST by jmc813 (The Jets have broken my heart)
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To: Howlin
They're not part of us; never supported Bush; in fact, actively worked against him.

Way to generalize. I happily supported Bush but think that Gonzales sucks.

165 posted on 01/23/2005 5:38:19 PM PST by jmc813 (The Jets have broken my heart)
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To: Howlin; eno_
You know, I'm really sick of you all acting like the rest of us are just hearing about the Constitution.

I have no doubt that you are familiar with the Constitution, but perhaps you should read the Federalist Papers. Once you realize the original intent of the 2nd Amendment, I bet you would be more liable to recognize the importance of gun rights.

166 posted on 01/23/2005 5:41:31 PM PST by jmc813 (The Jets have broken my heart)
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To: sinkspur
No serious person thinks the AWB is going to be revived, yet it's being used as an excuse to refuse confirmation to Gonzales.

It's a matter of trust, sinkspur. I simply cannot trust a man to become the nation's top law enforcement agent if he does not trust me with firearms.

Besides, fromreading his comments on the issue, I'm convinved that Gonzales is not simply BSing on the issue like Bush did. He truly supports the AWB.

167 posted on 01/23/2005 5:43:41 PM PST by jmc813 (The Jets have broken my heart)
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To: sinkspur
Where did Gonzales say he opposes gun ownership in that article? He opposes assault weapons, which is not the same thing, as you know.

What?!?

168 posted on 01/23/2005 5:46:16 PM PST by jmc813 (The Jets have broken my heart)
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To: FairOpinion

If Gonzales doesn't get confirmed, Bush should ask Ashcroft to stay on. Ashcroft is cool. That'll teach 'em.


169 posted on 01/23/2005 6:44:28 PM PST by DianeDePoitiers
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To: Robert357

Would be a good project for some 527s rather than the RNC. However congressional Republicans need to step forward on this but do you know any that has....say Zell cajones?


170 posted on 01/23/2005 8:59:35 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: thummy

read what he said.

instead of just lip service, he chipped in the usual 'my brother is a cop and I'm afraid about him going up against these dangerous guns' line that the anti's use.


171 posted on 01/23/2005 9:40:57 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: FairOpinion; Dane
I hardly see asking for prudent reservation in approving this AG nominee who may have conflicting ties with an organization (La Raza) known to hinder dutiful enforcement of immigration law "unconservative" or as a failure to support President Bush in most other areas. In fact, it's probably more conservative than those blind "yes" nodders who act without thinking.

If Gonzales is willing to abide by and see the enforcement of law, I have no problem with his approval. If, however, he sees his loyalty to La Raza more important (if there is any) then, IMO, a compromised Gonzales should not be placed as head of the Justice Department. His approval should be moved upon with caution until that association issue with La Raza is cleared up.

But, since you guys belong to the OBL, you wouldn't understand that, would you?

172 posted on 01/24/2005 6:33:46 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: FairOpinion

Did Biden say this or is he just repeating what someone else said?


173 posted on 01/24/2005 6:34:22 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: DianeDePoitiers

I agree. John is a good man.


174 posted on 01/24/2005 6:35:50 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Reuben Hick
"So who are the "xenophobes and racists" that you have in mind? Or is this just a comment out of the blue just some way at you lashing out at real Americans? "

"Xenophobes and racists" are people who don't consider persons of Hispanic ancestry to be "real Americans."

.

"Your position is one either of ignorance or malice. History has shown repeatedly that nations that lose their borders cease to be a unified nation."

Give us five examples.

175 posted on 01/24/2005 7:43:00 AM PST by bayourod (America, the greatest nation in history is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are an asset.)
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To: bayourod
"Xenophobes and racists" are people who don't consider persons of Hispanic ancestry to be "real Americans."

You have this uncanny knack for distorting other people's words.
"Real Americans" tend to be patriots who love this country's traditions, culture and language. Those "hispanics" you refer to are "real americans" even if they sneak in from Honduras, violate our laws, have no intention of assimilating (ie learn the language, customs and laws) and might leave if after a number of years they aren't able to smuggle in the rest of their family.

Give us five examples.

My billing rate is $200/hr for performing your research. Do you need my paypal account number?

Clearly you know nothing of Bosnia (for a very recent example), Rome, Greece, Egypt and Persia. They lost their borders and they lost their culture.

Then of course there is the Middle East where the borders were drawn according to the British Mandate rather than along cultural lines.

Perhaps you can explain why the Chinese are colonizing Tibet? To dilute the population and abosrb them into greater China? Why do you suppose India and Pakistan fight over the Kashmir?

I can hardly wait to see how you twist the facts...

176 posted on 01/24/2005 8:41:00 AM PST by Reuben Hick
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To: Reuben Hick
"Do you need my paypal account number? "

Yes.

177 posted on 01/24/2005 9:07:48 AM PST by bayourod (America, the greatest nation in history is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are an asset.)
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To: Kenny500c

Condi and Jeb either way is a landslide victory. Condi would clinch the nomination if she announced Jeb as her running mate when she announces her candidacy. All the Reagan Democrats and Independents would be on board.


178 posted on 01/25/2005 4:07:30 PM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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