Witches Kill Baby (40 puncture wounds & snapped neck)

Christian Underground ^ | Jan. 20, 2005

[Lindykim]

The Christian Underground http://www.christian-underground.com READ IT - LEARN FROM IT - PRAY OVER IT - SHARE IT --- Witches Kill Baby January 21, 2005

Little girl had 40 puncture wounds and a snapped neck Pagan tattoos may match baby girl's wounds Photos of couple's religious markings studied in probe of toddler's death

Prosecutors have obtained photographs of a Springfield Township couple's neopagan tattoos in an effort to match the markings to puncture wounds on the woman's slain year-old daughter. Daniel Duffield and Vanessa McGlumphy are charged in connection with the neck-snapping death of McGlumphy's 13-month-old daughter Jacqueline Mae Cooper.

Aside from the fatal neck injury, the toddler's body was also riddled with more than 40 puncture wounds, 12 broken ribs and a lacerated liver. Prosecutors last week received permission from Summit County Common Pleas Judge Marvin Shapiro to photograph the couple to determine whether their religious tattoos match puncture wounds that appear on the toddler's feet.

According to court records, the child had puncture wounds on her foot in the shape of a Wicca or Celtic symbol.

In addition, prosecutors say that Duffield and McGlumphy told investigators that they wanted to raise the girl in their Wiccan faith, an earth-based religion sometimes called ``The Craft´´ or the ``The Craft of the Wise.´´

Duffield told investigators that he placed the Wiccan pentacle symbol on the girl's feet, prosecutors say. Photos of the couple's markings were taken last week at the Summit County Jail, where the two are being held. Duffield's tattoos include a skull and dagger, an anarchy symbol, a demon and a Celtic cross, prosecutors say. McGlumphy's include a goat head, Medusa and a she-devil.

Prosecutors say a needle containing the child's DNA was found near her crib around the time of her death. The child's puncture wounds, prosecutors contend, are evidence of abuse at the hands of Duffield and proof that McGlumphy ignored the girl's injuries. ``For (McGlumphy), Wicca is nothing but an appreciation and love of nature,´´ said defense lawyer Tom Adgate, who represents the woman. Adgate said his client ``didn´t notice -- and she didn´t condone´´ -- the symbol puncture wounds. ``And she doesn´t know when it was done.´´

Duffield's lawyers could not be reached for comment. Duffield, 32, is charged with murder, involuntary manslaughter, child endangering and felonious assault involving puncturing the girl's feet and face. McGlumphy, 25, is charged with involuntary manslaughter and child endangering. Each has pleaded not guilty.

Both are scheduled for trial Monday, but Duffield has asked for a delay to allow his lawyers more time to prepare for trial. Shapiro is expected to rule on the request in a hearing.

The toddler died Oct. 6 from either a dislocation at the top of the spine -- from blunt impact to the head -- or a ``hyperextension/hyperflexion´´ of the neck, according to autopsy reports.

On Tuesday, a juvenile court judge granted temporary custody of the girl's twin sister to McGlumphy's father. The arrangement was agreed to by the child's biological father.

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[John Lenin]

The truth about Pagans is, Satanists have taken over the movement and the idiots aren't aware of it.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"And I wonder how many 'Wiccan' chaplins are there in the U.S. Armed Forces?"

Well, I don't know if there are any Wiccan Chaplains, per se, but the military considers it a valid religion. From "The US Army Chaplains' Handbook:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_usbk.htm
http://www.joellessacredgrove.com/Spells/military.html

"With respect to attitude toward military service, Wiccans range from career military personnel to conscientious objectors. Wiccans do not proselytize and generally resent those who do. They believe that no one Path to the Sacred is right for all people, and see their own religious pattern as only one among many that are equally worthy. Wiccans respect all religions that foster honor and compassion in their adherents, and expect the same respect. Members are encouraged to learn about all faiths, and are permitted to attend the services of other religions, should they desire to do so."

Yep. Surprised the heck outta me, too.

[Lurking Libertarian]

The Crusades were nothing more than an attempt by the Church--and her allies in Europe--to reclaim Christian lands that had been conquered and oppressed by the Arab hordes. Christians in the holy land were being slaughtered, forcibly converted, and sold into slavery.

Read sometime about what the Crusaders did to the Jews of the Rhineland.

[Durus]

Response to #124 "First, not one person on the face of this earth can reason without recourse to transcendant moral law. The "Tao," as CS Lewis termed it."

CS Lewis did not coin the term Tao. In fact Tao (pronounced "Dow") can be roughly translated into English as “the path” or “the way”. Tao is short for Taoism. The founder of Taoism (pronounced Daoism) was Lao-Tse in 604-531 BCE. Certainly followers of Taoism think that they have a lock on "Transcendental moral law", most religions do. As you can see Taoism has no roots in Christianity.

I'm not sure if you intend to use the phrase like Immanuel Kant did but your logical construct follows his. Like Kant you ignore reality for human perception. The rules of physics, mathematics, the universe, and including morality, are there for us to find. If there truly are "Transcendental moral laws", they are not the foundation of reason, reason is what reveals them to us.

The "golden rule" or Ethic Of Reciprocity as you point out may be an example of moral truth. Most major and secondary religions espouse it and independent thought outside of organized religion expouse it as well.

Christianity
All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye so to them; for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 7:1

Confucianism
Do not do to others what you would not like yourself. Then there will be no resentment against you, either in the family or in the state.
Analects 12:2

Buddhism
Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
Udana-Varga 5,1

Hinduism
This is the sum of duty; do naught onto others what you would not have them do unto you.
Mahabharata 5,1517

Islam
No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
Sunnah

Judaism
What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellowman. This is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary.
Talmud, Shabbat 3id

Taoism
Regard your neighbor’s gain as your gain, and your neighbor’s loss as your own loss.
Tai Shang Kan Yin P’ien

Zoroastrianism
That nature alone is good which refrains from doing another whatsoever is not good for itself.
Dadisten-I-dinik, 94,5

Wicca
If no harm is done, do as you will.
Wiccan Rede

Socrates: (Greek philosopher from the 5th century BCE)
"Do not do to others that which would anger you if others did it to you."

Seneca: (Roman philosopher from the 1st century BCE)
"Treat your inferiors as you would be treated by your superiors," Epistle 47:11

We should base our laws on empirical, well reasoned, ethics and morals that may or may not have roots in the Christian religion. Our constitutional republic was founded on reason after all.

[Long Cut]

I thank you for your kind words.

It bothers me that some conservatives seem all too willing to follow in the footsteps of the Left, in latching onto a truly sick event, perpetrated by sick, twisted individuals, to advance an agenda which includes banning some religions in full violation of the Constitution.

Relace the word "religions" in my above statement with "guns" and you see what I am talking about. The Left does this with astounding regularity. If our side does it, we lose the right to make the same argument with regard to other issues.

[trubluolyguy]

Quick where were the local chapters of NOW and the ACLU when this baby was kidnapped and killed?

[trubluolyguy]

"I'd snap their frigging necks when I hung 'em"


I wouldn't. I'd let them twist in the wind, slowly strangling. A broken neck is too quick for these monsters.

[all4one]

"Actually, I am surprised that there are not more examples of this sort these days"

There are examples....we just don't hear about them in the MSM. I wouldn't doubt it if the woman that cut the baby from the mother's womb recently, was a practicing pagan. If you pay close attention to news stories during the soltices; there are just a few more stories about missing/murdered people.

[Miss Behave]

So succinct and well said, Long Cut.

BTW, thank you for your brave and honorable service to our great country...and the pictures of your AWESOME P-3C ORION on your homepage are beautiful. I especially like the one that you captioned "You can run...".

[Long Cut]

Thanks. The artist who did that is Dru Blair, and he's got some truly outstanding stuff at his site. Give him a look; you'll be glad you did.

[Lindykim]

In that transcendant moral law is found in every ancient civilization, Lewis used the word Tao only as an 'umbrella' of sorts under which to group the entirety of it. Tao was used in order to simplify discussion and was not meant to be taken as you seem to have done.


snip...The rules of physics, mathematics, the universe, and including morality, are there for us to find. If there truly are "Transcendental moral laws", they are not the foundation of reason, reason is what reveals them to us.


Point 1.....In that without moral ethics reason can very well become a tool of the selfcentered, after all even the Red Queen had her 'reasons' for declaring pink flamingos to be croquet mallets, then it should be said that without moral ethics, reason leads to unreasonableness and outright irrationality.


Point 2....Reason being amoral, it may discover transcendant moral law, but decide to ignore it because it stands in the way of what amoral reason wants for self.


Point 3....Our Founders, being of "sound mind" chose Christian-based transcendant moral law, and not Buddhist, Hindu, Zorostrian, Islamic, or any other, despite the fact that their transcendant moral laws are so similar to Christianities.

Our Declaration clearly states: endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights.....life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Notice that it doesn't refer to mystics, goddesses, or multiple gods. It refers to one Creator, and implied within that statement is that this one Creator created mankind and meant for him to be free. Had any other religious system in the history of mankind ever been capable of producing the results as did the Christian worldview, then it would make sense for our Declaration to say something like: our gods and goddesses" have endowed us. But it doesn't say that. And our Founders were men who believed in one Creator. The only argument among a very few of them was whether our Creator is personal or impersonal.

[Lindykim]

snip..Quick where were the local chapters of NOW and the ACLU when this baby was kidnapped and killed


In the cheering section, no doubt.

[The SISU kid]

The Declaration of Independence was written eleven years before the U.S. Constitution was introduced at the Constitutional Convention of 1787. The Declaration of Independence is the only document that speaks of a Creator. It speaks of particular attributes that this Creator must have. This indicates that not all Creators are equal. Not all are welcomed by the U.S. Constitution. It must be a Creator that supports the ideas of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If there are any out there that fulfill this requirement, let this Creator stand forward.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

[Miss Behave]

What an AWESOME website. Absolutely FABULOUS artwork. My favorites are the F-14 entitled "Tomcat!," the F-15 entitiled "Eye of the Eagle," the B-1B entitled "Power," the B-1B entitled "Low Level Lightning," and the M1A1 Abrams in the "New Paintings Section" entitled "...and Hell's Comin With Me," about which its gifted artist, Michael Harris, writes was "inspired by the late David Bloom's accounts as he traveled with the 3rd Infantry across the desert."

Thanks, Long Cut. What a treat--can't wait to show my dad. I hope everyone who's interested in beautiful U.S. Military machinery visits the site.

[Long Cut]

You have to remember thaqt the DOE does NOT carry the force of law. The Constitution is the only Founding Document that does.

[toadthesecond]

Our Declaration clearly states: endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights

I thought it was their Creator.

[Durus]

"Tao was used in order to simplify discussion and was not meant to be taken as you seem to have done."

Tao had a meaning before C.S. Lewis was born and no doubt he knew that. To misuse the basic tenant of one religion to explain another is sloppy at best.

"In that without moral ethics reason can very well become a tool of the selfcentered..."

Anything can be a tool for the self centered. Especially organized religion.

"Reason being amoral, it may discover transcendant moral law, but decide to ignore it because it stands in the way of what amoral reason wants for self."

A Christian, a Wiccan, or a Taoist may ignore the tenants of their religion for selfish reasons too.

"Our Founders, being of "sound mind" chose Christian-based transcendant moral law..."

I do not agree that our constitutional republic is based on Christian "transcendental moral law". I would like to hear more about your claims that it was.

"And our Founders were men who believed in one Creator. The only argument among a very few of them was whether our Creator is personal or impersonal."

Rather then personal or impersonal I would say that the greatest schism between Deists and Christians (the majority was one or the other, most being Christians) is that Christians believed in revealed knowledge while Deists did not. Of course Deists do not recognize Jesus as being the son of G-d either, which may be an even bigger schism on further reflection.

[The SISU kid]

Long Cut, That was my intent....somehow I failed??

toadthesecond, I corrected her slight of word play when she replaced their with our...sneaky... sneaky...

Words MEAN Things....

8^)

[Long Cut]

Glad you liked it. Check the bottom of my homepage for another art site...that one by Don Feight.

[Lindykim]

snip...I corrected her slight of word play when she replaced their with our...sneaky... sneaky.


So you're the 'cavalry to the rescue" and your little sillyisms have been the 'spitwads' you've been pinging at me and priding yourself are so very clever?


I truly wonder at LC calling upon your 'sort' of rescue.