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Exposing CBS
Wash Times ^ | 18 jan 05 | William Campenni

Posted on 01/18/2005 4:18:51 AM PST by white trash redneck

It's time to drive a stake into this continuing saga less it become the new grassy knoll for the left-wing pundits and blogosphere. I accept the challenge.

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how do I prove this memo is a fake? Easy -- for the weekend that 1st Lt. Bush was supposedly ordered to report for his physical, May 13-14, 1972, the Ellington Air Guard Base was closed. It was Mother's Day. Except for emergencies, Air Guard units never drilled on Mother's Day; the divorce lawyers would be waiting at the gate.

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(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; campenni; cbs; cbsnews; nationalguard; propagandawingofdnc; rathergate; tang
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The clearest explanation of why the CBS documents are forgeries. It doesn't rely on any technical claims about proportional spacing typewriters ("yes they had them, no they didn't).
1 posted on 01/18/2005 4:18:53 AM PST by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck
And a post office box number on the letterhead

And the st after the 1..........even in this letter it says 1st.....but in the military it's 1LT without the st, or 2nd.....

2 posted on 01/18/2005 4:26:31 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: white trash redneck

Great find..here's more
http://freedomkeys.com/w-tangfacts.htm
Sorry, SeeBS, even the "story" the phony documents are supposed to be about is phony

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Posted on 01/10/2005 2:17:58 PM CST by Mike Fieschko


3 posted on 01/18/2005 4:29:53 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: white trash redneck
Not to be pedantic here, but is the Washington Times now making us excerpt???  I thought they were one of the good guys?

Owl_Eagle

"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

-Hillary Clinton
(Yes, she really said that
Peggy Noonan
The Case Against Hillary Clinton, pg 55)

4 posted on 01/18/2005 4:30:06 AM PST by End Times Sentinel ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace;" –Thomas Paine)
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    "[T]he Panel stresses that it is making no findings as to the authenticity of the Killian documents;... it may never be possible for anyone to authenticate or discredit the documents." — Report of the 60 Minutes independent panel
    
IMHO, that said it all.  CBS will never regain its believability.
5 posted on 01/18/2005 4:30:43 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: white trash redneck

The other issue the idiot forgers screwed up are the windows regarding flight physicals.

They expire on the last day of the aviators birth month. With a birthday in July, Bush's physical wasn't due for a good two months. No way this issue gets elevated to the CO's Radar Screen!


6 posted on 01/18/2005 4:31:40 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Wristpin

Memo to CBS...Hire Perky Katie the sour dour news dame. See your ratings go into the gutter. Wait. That may be an improvement.


7 posted on 01/18/2005 4:40:25 AM PST by Shady
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To: white trash redneck

I hadn't heard this before. The last nail in the coffin? Is anyone going to do anything about it - This should be criminal.


9 posted on 01/18/2005 4:42:59 AM PST by commonguymd (My impatience is far more advanced than any known technology.)
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re: The lesson here: If you are a big media entity with a political agenda and have reporters with a five-year obsession to get George Bush on his Guard service even if it means using fake documents from an incredible source (hint to USA Today) get Kirkpatrick & Lockhart. ------

Good lawyer indeed.

Can you say "whitewash"?

This episode should not be dropped. It should linger and continue as when back in 1772 the Watergate break-in first occurred.

Someday soon one of these fired goons at CBS should have something to say. BTW, is Burkett in a straight jacket in a rubber room down in Texas?

This story must continue until Dan Rather is behind bars or tarred and feathered.

10 posted on 01/18/2005 4:44:59 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: white trash redneck

I saw a great advert for CBS the other day on Tv.

It said "Why watch what everybody else is watching?"

I think it was on the Simpsons.


11 posted on 01/18/2005 4:45:35 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: commonguymd
I hadn't heard it before, either, which is why I posted it.

The nice thing is that this is so simple that even a liberal can understand it, without having to grasp such complexities as font sizes, proportional spacing, and the fact that a TANG unit would be very unlikely to have a state of the art typewriter.

12 posted on 01/18/2005 4:46:56 AM PST by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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While CBS, in its rush to judgment, might have missed this fatal flaw in the Burkett memo, its investigative law firm, Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Nicholson Graham LLP, cannot be excused. Why? Because one of their investigating lawyers was informed of this fact on Nov. 15 and given a list of seven witnesses who worked in the same offices with Jerry Killian every day in 1972. (Disclosure statement: I was the source.) The panel report makes no mention of this, and a canvass of most of the witness list reveals no contact attempt by Kirkpatrick & Lockhart.

Busted.

13 posted on 01/18/2005 4:47:17 AM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Shady
See your ratings go into the gutter. Wait. That may be an improvement.

From the sewer up to the gutter....... yes, that would be an improvement.

;-)

14 posted on 01/18/2005 4:47:45 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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back in 1772 the Watergate break-in first occurred

Wait a minute. I was in college when Watergate happened, and I'm not that old.

15 posted on 01/18/2005 4:48:19 AM PST by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: white trash redneck

bump


16 posted on 01/18/2005 4:49:30 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: savedbygrace
its investigative law firm, Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Nicholson Graham LLP

Dick Thornburgh's law firm. Can you say "conflict of interest," children?

17 posted on 01/18/2005 4:49:53 AM PST by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: white trash redneck
Wait a minute. I was in college when Watergate happened, and I'm not that old.

Oh yes you are. I was four years out of college, and I'm creeking. ;-)

18 posted on 01/18/2005 4:50:49 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: white trash redneck
The author is more than likely correct.

I was in the Georgia Air National Guard (GANG) for seven years, and we never met on Mother's Day.

One possibility is that he was "ordered" to report to an active duty base? I am not sure, but if he was, his time could have either been recoded as active duty, weekend make-up, advanced week-end training, or extra time (which some call Guard-bumming).

Having not paid much attention to the orders, I can't be sure of any details. I can promise you that if the physical was scheduled to have taken place on a guard or reserve facility, this is a slam dunk for the president.

If it was to have occurred on an active duty base, it's still an open possibility, even though most medical people would be smart enough to schedule around mother's day.
19 posted on 01/18/2005 4:55:37 AM PST by Preachin' (Democrats know that they can never run on their real agenda.)
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Something bothers me about all this - in my mind it is not enough to just be right. The next fakes and forgeries will be better - you can count on it. To attempt to bring down a sitting president is beyond compare. But, it seems that for most including the White House - "just being right" is enough.

You are right - this is so easy to understand and cannot be refuted.


20 posted on 01/18/2005 4:59:20 AM PST by commonguymd (My impatience is far more advanced than any known technology.)
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