Posted on 01/15/2005 2:32:03 PM PST by AVNevis
Per MSNBC
He's just too clever and well spoken for me to debate.
FYI: Graner and his crew have the blood of the contractors whose burnt bodies hung from that green bridge plus on their hands.
If anyone is in over their head,it is you. As a matter of fact,you drowned long ago and are just too stupid to realize it.
Actually you are far stupider than I first supposed you to be.
There wouldn't be a story if we didn't hand it to them. No one invented Abu Ghraib. Dan Rather didn't dream it up. It happened, because the system broke down, and that section of the Army failed.
The news outlets are not to blame for that.
Blaming the media is disingenous. The Army needs to maintain discipline regardless of whether or not anyone is watching.
ROTFLMAOPIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all know you're a wolf in sheik's clothing!
With that, I'll depart back to the humor threads, where I actually have some fans.
When he took those photos, sent those photos..he endangered his own. The media does what it does..
Pictures are forever...I despise his harming our military. I despise that he gave the media a story to tell in pictures..I despise his perverse pleasure shown in the pictures.
I despise the lack of command discipline.
No what is weak, is you and your thought process.
Bingo. You get it.
Just the sound of crickets. Which is ironic, considering the fact that THEY brought it up.
By that definition, none of our POWs in Vietnam or North Korea were ever tortured. Tell that to the vets who were there. I'm sure they would disagree.
And interesting is your description here: "Torture is standing naked Jews out in an icy prison yard in subzero temperatures for hours." It sounds a lot like the abuse that went on at Abu Ghraib:
"H could not see what went on inside the interrogation room but she could hear the screams and some of the questions asked during the interrogations. Whenever interrogators brought in a new prisoner, they would always bring in a block of ice. She did not know why they brought the ice or how they used it during interrogation. But the interrogation sessions always included the ice block and were followed, a few hours later, by a visit to the prisoner, who by then would be unconscious, by two doctors, an American and an Iraqi. The prisoners were invariably taken out of the interrogation room unconscious."So was that torture or not?
A civilian tech rep? Gee, what a shock (not).
You ought to hang out in the mess halls and cofee lounges to hear what the guys are talking about amongst themselves.
The media ran Abu Ghraib as a headliner on the front page for almost a solid month. The pictures were endlessly thrown in front of everybody's face the world round. The primary motivation was to try and pin this one on Bush, but the effect was to blow this way out of proportion. Sy Hersch promised pictures of torture and rape by US soldiers. They never materialized, but he never retracted.
Yes, the media was handed a story, but they turned it into a circus, and one which hurt America and endangered Americans. How you can hold them blameless in this matter is beyond my understanding.
Even today, the 'media' drags up Abu Ghraib at the drop of a hat. Anytime the terrorists commit an atrocity, you will find some antiwar nitwit remind us of Abu Ghraib and implying it is all our fault. There have been multiple trial balloons in the past month over Abu Ghraib, trying to get it on the front page again. This story has legs for one reason -- the antiwar left wants to discredit the Iraq War. To blame that all on Graner, dispicable though he may be, is shortsighted and lack basic fairness.
Minor correction, but he sent them to Col David Hackworth, who sent them to Mapes.
10 years is a bit harsh.
Do I hate the overblown media coverage, of course..predictable.
Do I also hate the pontificating of the anti war dems and Eurotwits..of course I hate it..but they don't care if they harm our military or our mission.....and Graner and crew gave them ammo in pictures to rant about.
Do I know the Islamofascists don't blink at maiming, beheading or torture..of course...Graner gave them ammo in pictures to draw their ridiculous parallels.
They harmed our military.
I hate it.
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