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Graner gets 10 years for torture

Posted on 01/15/2005 2:32:03 PM PST by AVNevis

Per MSNBC


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To: nopardons

Wes Clark and Janis Karpinski = [evil] twins separated at birth!


221 posted on 01/15/2005 5:11:38 PM PST by KiloLima (Amnesty is to "Guest Worker Program" as Terrorist is to "Insurgent.")
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To: Steel Wolf; All
This is Steel Wolf, from his website. This explains a few things.
222 posted on 01/15/2005 5:11:49 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Long Cut
And so are you!

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

223 posted on 01/15/2005 5:11:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
dood...according to the Geneva Convention...they should have been shot as spies...
224 posted on 01/15/2005 5:13:36 PM PST by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: nopardons

P.S. Read all my posts. We don't agree on everything but at least we can talk! So far . . . heheh :-)


225 posted on 01/15/2005 5:13:47 PM PST by KiloLima (Amnesty is to "Guest Worker Program" as Terrorist is to "Insurgent.")
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To: Palladin

I would say, "kiss my ***," but that might be construed as a personal attack.

I like to think that I'm above using ad hominem arguments to make my point.

If you want to defend Graner, feel free. Most Americans recognize that what he did was both revolting and illegal. You're in the minority.




226 posted on 01/15/2005 5:14:05 PM PST by rommy
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To: nopardons
"Unlike the majority of posters to this thread, I actually know what I'm talking about. "

HAHHAHAHAHA.....nominated for the funniest post on FR today....lol
227 posted on 01/15/2005 5:16:19 PM PST by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: Getsmart64
They were NOT told to "mess with the prisoners"!

Being "bored" is NOT why GArnedr and his inner circle did what they did.

You don't have a problem with what he and his happy horde of pervert sickos did? REALLY?

Would YOU prostitute your girlfriend to your pals,because you were bored? How about putting on a sex-show for your ohhhhhhhh soooooooooooooo "bored" pals,instead of doing what you were supposed to be doing instead?

You're the one with some mighty big problems,kid.

228 posted on 01/15/2005 5:16:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: AVNevis

The damage that he and the others that participated in this .... "whatever it was", utterly apart from the US Military or the US Government is irreversible and immeasurable in terms of the PR damage it did to our nation and way of life!!!


229 posted on 01/15/2005 5:17:07 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Palladin
You are being a complete jerk.

What branch of the service are/were you in?

I'm active duty myself, and let me assure you, there is UNIVERSAL condemnation in the Enlisted AND Officer ranks for what Graner and his merry band of sickos did. The Officers I know are, to a man, sickened by the dishonor brought to the "O" ranks by the Officers who SHOULD have been controlling their perverted dogs at Abu Graib.

You are acting foolish, ignorant, and silly. Until you actually have some knowledge of what went on there (and I read the entire Taguba Report, as have Poohbah, Steel Wolf, and others here), and Rush's "fraternity prank" Bravo Sierra is just that.

Knock it off.

231 posted on 01/15/2005 5:17:36 PM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Getsmart64
maybe he should have cut his head off eh?

That would not bother me any. At least it would mean that he would no longer be able to hurt others.

One thing about this Graner was found guilty and sentenced by his peers.

Good.

He did what he did, posed, had pictures taken and mailed and/or e-mailed the pictures to family and friends. Even sent pictures of naked detainees to his little children. Read all the different articles that are included in the link at post #141.

232 posted on 01/15/2005 5:17:54 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Palladin
This is Steel Wolf, from his website. This explains a few things

Yeah, that I'm a snappy dresser, and I have a few souviniers from Iraq. What did you bring back, Palladin?

233 posted on 01/15/2005 5:17:55 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Getsmart64

Why am I not surprised that you don't have a prob with it/sarcsasm..

Bless their little bored hearts..THEY HARMED THEIR OWN MILITARY..The pictures are thrown in the faces of those soldiers who do their job right even when bored...Graner is perverted . His little S and M games and disobeying of orders about his girlfriend did not just get him and his buddies in hot water..

It hurt the innocent soldiers out there fighting and dying and doing their jobs...even when bored.


234 posted on 01/15/2005 5:17:57 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Poohbah

"Interesting--I was told the same thing by an O-6 who wound up getting relieved for cause and dismissed from the service."

Exactly!!!....they put their name on the dotted line...better be a s**t hot troop for he/she to put their ass on the line eh?


235 posted on 01/15/2005 5:18:33 PM PST by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: Getsmart64
You, too, do not know what the Hell you're talking about.

If you haven't read the Taguba Report, do so before shooting your mouth off.

WHat branch are you in?

236 posted on 01/15/2005 5:19:10 PM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Getsmart64
Have YOU ever been in any branch of the military?

Are you even out of high school,or are you just a case of arrested development?

The Geneva Convention doesn't cover common criminals.

Keep on digging...you'll NEVER get out of that hole. LOL

237 posted on 01/15/2005 5:19:24 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Getsmart64

You don't read your own posts...do you ? LOL


238 posted on 01/15/2005 5:19:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TexKat
No point...was not good journalism...sorry...was a weak reference on your part....
239 posted on 01/15/2005 5:20:11 PM PST by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: KiloLima

True! :-)


240 posted on 01/15/2005 5:20:48 PM PST by nopardons
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