FBI Keeping Records on Pre-9/11 Travelers

My Way News ^ | 1/14/05 | LESLIE MILLER/AP

[wagglebee]

I don't have any objection to the FBI keeping files on suspicious people, but to maintain records on everyone who just happened to travel during this three month period is a clear violation of rights.

[BullDog108]

Clear violation of what rights? Right to privacy? Where in the constitution does it mention a right to privacy? That right was created during Roe v Wade to kill babyies legally.

[BullDog108]

babies

[spetznaz]

Don't worry ....didn't they just waste 170 million trying to develop a way, in vain, for accessing their databases and sending email!!!!!!!!!!!! More than likely this is a waste of time (and even if it works they will probably be checking where you or i were hanging out instead of keeping tabs of terrorist Ali and Mujahadeen Husseini).

[wagglebee]

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I'm not talking about invented privacy rights.

[BullDog108]

Using your credit card and the electronic trail that creates automatically voids your so-called right. Want privacy? Use cash.

[gaspar]

Wagglebee, how often must you be reminded that we are at war and we have enemies that want to destroy our nation? And indluded in the Hate America group is the Electronic Privacy Information Center and the AP; for both entities, every secret must be divulged to our enemies.

[OpusatFR]

Use cash?

Just try to pay for that one way plane ticket with cash!

That's a sure way to get a physical exam by unqualified non-doctors.

[BullDog108]

Not if you know how to do it. Hint: If you don't know how, I ain't telling....

[An American In Dairyland]

Clear violation of what rights? Right to privacy? Where in the constitution does it mention a right to privacy?

It doesn't. I flew to LA and back during that time and since I didn't consort with terrorists, rob banks, buy drugs or do anything else illegal, I'm not much worried about the FBI tracking me and my airline meals which were not kosher but were pretty tasty.

[wagglebee]

And if the FBI wants results they would end the political correctness that hinders them and make us of the proven system of profiling. All of the terrorists were Arab Muslims, to probe the eating habits of a travelling businessman or vacationing family is a waste of time and resources. We know what the terrorists look like, we know what they believe in and we know how they generally act before they commit murder in order to gain access to Muhammed's promised whorehouse with an open bar, what the FBI and other agencies needs to do is locate all of these people and either imprison or deport them (because the Constitution provides no rights whatsoever for non-citizens).

[wagglebee]

LOL.

[Dog Gone]

So the FBI knows that I flew to Italy and returned from Greece in July of 2001. They know that I bought some wallets and belts in a shop in Florence. They know I bought some sort of a crappy lunch at a restaurant on the Corinth canal.

I wish they would write and tell me what I ordered, because I don't remember.

[txzman]

Don't you think all this information is sitting in private databases anyway? They are looking for patterns and matches - makes all the sense in the world to me.

[wagglebee]

Looking for patterns and matches is one thing, compiling a file on a person merely because they happened to fly in the weeks before 9/11 is quite another.

[Brian328i]

The FBI or any government agency has nothing compared to other private companies that collect data from courthouses, online purchases, or anything else....

[ml/nj]

I'm not talking about invented privacy rights.

Nothing of mine was searched, not my house, my person, papers or effects. Nor was I seized or my things seized. The fact that I traveled somewhere during the summer of 2001 is not confidential information. You are certainly imagining a right if you think there is something unreasonable about the government mining such travel records for suspicious activity.

ML/NJ

[GreenCell]

Your Statement: "I don't have any objection to the FBI keeping files on suspicious people, but to maintain records on everyone who just happened to travel during this three month period is a clear violation of rights."

Specifically spell out what rights....I've searched all amendment and it says nothing about your statement. You sir, are mal-informed.

Don't want to travel, don't.

[Clovis_Skeptic]

I believe the 4th ammendment

[sarah_f]

Not a problem. Incompetence still reigns.



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