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I don't have any objection to the FBI keeping files on suspicious people, but to maintain records on everyone who just happened to travel during this three month period is a clear violation of rights.
1 posted on 01/15/2005 12:41:54 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Clear violation of what rights? Right to privacy? Where in the constitution does it mention a right to privacy? That right was created during Roe v Wade to kill babyies legally.


2 posted on 01/15/2005 12:45:49 PM PST by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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To: wagglebee

Don't worry ....didn't they just waste 170 million trying to develop a way, in vain, for accessing their databases and sending email!!!!!!!!!!!! More than likely this is a waste of time (and even if it works they will probably be checking where you or i were hanging out instead of keeping tabs of terrorist Ali and Mujahadeen Husseini).


4 posted on 01/15/2005 12:48:53 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: wagglebee

Wagglebee, how often must you be reminded that we are at war and we have enemies that want to destroy our nation? And indluded in the Hate America group is the Electronic Privacy Information Center and the AP; for both entities, every secret must be divulged to our enemies.


7 posted on 01/15/2005 12:53:49 PM PST by gaspar
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Don't you think all this information is sitting in private databases anyway? They are looking for patterns and matches - makes all the sense in the world to me.


14 posted on 01/15/2005 1:08:14 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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The FBI or any government agency has nothing compared to other private companies that collect data from courthouses, online purchases, or anything else....


16 posted on 01/15/2005 1:29:49 PM PST by Brian328i
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Your Statement: "I don't have any objection to the FBI keeping files on suspicious people, but to maintain records on everyone who just happened to travel during this three month period is a clear violation of rights."

Specifically spell out what rights....I've searched all amendment and it says nothing about your statement. You sir, are mal-informed.

Don't want to travel, don't.


18 posted on 01/15/2005 1:36:22 PM PST by GreenCell
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To: wagglebee

Not a problem. Incompetence still reigns.



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20 posted on 01/15/2005 2:14:19 PM PST by sarah_f (Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: wagglebee

I disagree. When the DC snipers were hard at work shooting people, the police had, in their computers, records of every person they stopped in roadblocks. If the nitwit running the hunt had bothered to look in those computers he would have discovered that the two perps who were finally caught were stopped by roadblocks TEN TIMES or more and then passed through.

This kind of information is very unlikely to harm anyone else, but it could be vital in identifying perpetrators. The FBI would be exceedingly foolish to destroy these records.

Personally I don't care whether the FBI keeps copies of records that are available in this way. As said above, if I wanted to keep something secret I'd use cash. But there's no way on earth they can do anything harmful with this information to ordinary citizens. There's just too much information, and why should they?


24 posted on 01/15/2005 2:35:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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No it isn't! Where is it stated that Americans (or anybody else) have an unalienable right to "privacy",in regards to when they've been on a plane,especially in connection with research on possible criminal/terrorist activities that bean a war?
25 posted on 01/15/2005 2:38:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: wagglebee

Well, then, I suppose my name's on that list. I flew from Colorado to Canada the week prior to 9/11 and returned to Colorado from Toronto on 9/9.


27 posted on 01/15/2005 2:48:08 PM PST by nicmarlo
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If you're among the millions of Americans who took airline flights in the months before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the FBI probably knows about it - and possibly where you stayed, whom you traveled with, what credit card you used and even whether you ordered a kosher meal.

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As part of its investigation into the terrorist attacks, the FBI asked for, and got, the records from a number of airlines shortly after Sept. 11. The FBI also got one set of data through a federal grand jury subpoena.

Why do the airlines even need to keep tabs on where you are staying? They don't mail tickets out anymore (travel is largely ticketless until you arrive at the airport and are handed a boarding pass).

Same with keeping tabs on what meal you ate. After the flight is over, such details can be purged at the airline end. Officials can only request such information if it is collected in the first place. Obviously the airlines kept that data.

28 posted on 01/15/2005 4:27:26 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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43 posted on 01/16/2005 10:13:13 PM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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