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1 posted on 01/14/2005 9:09:13 PM PST by Zon
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Pomposity knows no bounds

What next? NY State Customs offices at all state boundaries?

And from cigarettes, they'll move on to ANY and ALL purchases on the net...That's the game plan. They figure cigarettes is the most plausible to start with.

Has anyone asked just HOW they got the names and purchases off the Internet? Doesn't sound legal to me

45 posted on 01/14/2005 9:52:38 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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"If you have a bill for $10,000 for cigarette taxes, you're a dealer, you're not just smoking," Bloomberg said.

If Bloomie has his way, that'll be the monthly tax bill for someone smoking a pack a day.

46 posted on 01/14/2005 9:55:23 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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These people truly do not get it.


47 posted on 01/14/2005 9:56:07 PM PST by ServesURight
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Bloomberg doesn't realize how creative people can get. Let him triple all taxes and create an undergound economy.


53 posted on 01/14/2005 10:06:31 PM PST by BobS
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All this does is establish the need to buy those prepaid visa cards and use some other name.

Perhaps thos corner bar package stores will make a comeback.


55 posted on 01/14/2005 10:12:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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"The law says you got to pay your taxes. The handful of people who don't are just stealing from the rest of us," Bloomberg said in a weekly radio address.

What a pompous ass!

Where's Randy Moss when you need him...

65 posted on 01/14/2005 10:42:26 PM PST by Fruitbat
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Clemenza to Albany: F-ck you!


69 posted on 01/14/2005 10:59:34 PM PST by Clemenza (President: Liger Breeders of the Pacific Northwest)
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better be prepared to cough up taxes

Finally, something men can talk about when the doctor asks them to turn their head and cough.


71 posted on 01/14/2005 11:14:51 PM PST by taxesareforever (Just can't seem to get enough protection for criminals.)
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"The city's finance department this week sent letters to 3,700 smokers asking them to fork over $1.3 million in city taxes from Internet tobacco purchases."


$351 in tax per scofflaw. The bad PR this gets will only encourage, of course, a much stronger black market.


76 posted on 01/14/2005 11:47:02 PM PST by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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In CT what the people call a "sales" tax is referrred to in law as a "Sales and Use" tax. It covers sales as well as transactions outside of traditional sales. It could be used to charge taxes on barter deals and it expressly requires purchasers of goods who bring those purchases back to CT to pay taxes on them. Internet sales are included as are the more traditional mail order purchases.


89 posted on 01/15/2005 3:42:23 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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How do they know who is buying cigs online? Michael Bloomberg is the ultimate Lifestyle Nazi.


90 posted on 01/15/2005 4:00:20 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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More On Bloomberg


96 posted on 01/15/2005 6:03:17 AM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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"The finance commissioner is required by the city charter to enforce the law. It's against the law to buy something out of state and bring it in and avoid sales tax," he said.

Years ago, NY sent "undercover officers" to malls in New Jersey (I don't know if it's still the case, but at the time, NJ didn't charge sales tax on clothing) to record the license plate numbers of NY registered cars, and sent them warning letters that it was illegal to purchase items out of state to avoid paying taxes. There were talks of "townsfolks with torches and pichforks," so it was dropped. Looks like it's back again!

99 posted on 01/15/2005 6:26:20 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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“...and it's still the seller's responsibility to collect....”  

This is yet another slap in the face to our constitution.  Amendment XIII, Section 1 states:  Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist in the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”  

Requiring that businesses collect sales tax is involuntary servitude.  The amendment doesn’t specify whether or not one gets paid for the “servitude” but I believe it makes the distinction when it addresses both slavery and servitude.  Why are we not adhering to our constitution?


105 posted on 01/15/2005 6:35:01 AM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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I don’t understand the concept.  Smokers are using a product that if they didn’t use, the government would make NO money. The government raised the tax to a point where it was more attractive to buy elsewhere than pay the tax.  This is called free exchange of goods and services.  (Free enterprise).  There is no cheating here; this situation allows for no such thing as cheating.  If the price is too high, buy elsewhere.   

These people need to tell the state of New York to go to hell.  From what I understand, it is still illegal to tax internet sales unless the store has a physical location in your state.  When I make internet purchases of other goods there are no taxes unless there is a physical store in Kentucky.  

This is nothing but greed.

106 posted on 01/15/2005 6:37:06 AM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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"If you have a bill for $10,000 for cigarette taxes, you're a dealer, you're not just smoking," Bloomberg said.

And if you get a salary from the city of New York and use you position to prostitute the law, YOU are a PIMP!

118 posted on 01/15/2005 6:50:30 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not a 'legal entity')
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File it under: "Local Self-Governing Issues"
142 posted on 01/15/2005 7:17:25 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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The question is: what if you only browse a cig website, then order via the toll free number?


149 posted on 01/15/2005 7:33:57 AM PST by Solamente
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New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Friday that smokers who bought cigarettes over the Internet had better be prepared to cough up taxes they tried to avoid by going online.

Note: From now on just avoid going online and go straight to the Mafia for your cigarette supply. They dont keep records.

"The law says you got to pay your taxes. The handful of people who don't are just stealing from the rest of us,"

Bwahahahahaha

150 posted on 01/15/2005 7:36:26 AM PST by lowbridge
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The only way to enforce that law is to put custom houses up at all City entry points and check every person and vehicle trying to enter.


151 posted on 01/15/2005 7:37:47 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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