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Bush's Remarks on Religion Offends Atheists
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 1/14/05 | Melanie Hunter

Posted on 01/14/2005 3:32:57 PM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - An atheist group is criticizing President Bush for saying he can't see how one can be president without a relationship with the Lord. Bush's comments were "divisive," they say, and an insult to those who don't believe in religious creeds or a deity.

Bush's interview with the Washington Times "demonstrates clearly that he does not respect the diversity of the country, and the fact that nonbelievers and so-called 'seculars' are one of the fastest growing segments of American society," said Ellen Johnson, president of American Atheists.

"He just doesn't get it," said Johnson, "and he seems to ignore the fact that in our Constitution we do not have a religious test for those seeking public office."

When Washington Times' editor-in-chief Wesley Pruden asked him about the role of prayer in next week's inauguration and what he thinks is the proper role of his personal faith in the public arena, Bush said: "First of all, I will have my hand on the Bible. I read the article today, and I don't - it's interesting, I don't think faith is under attack.

"I think there are some who worry about a president who is faith-based, a person who openly admits that I accept the prayers of the people, trying to impose my will on others. I fully understand that the job of the president is and must always be protecting the great right of people to worship or not worship as they see fit," Bush said.

"That's what distinguishes us from the Taliban. The greatest freedom we have - or one of the greatest freedoms - is the right to worship the way you see fit. And on the other hand, I don't see how you can be president - at least from my perspective, how you can be president, without a - without a relationship with the Lord," he added.

Johnson was also offended by Bush's claim that the difference between America and the former Taliban regime in Afghanistan was simply "the right to worship the way you see fit."

"The real distinction between American and governments like the Taliban is that at least on paper, we have a Constitutional commitment to separation of government and religion," she said. "We have freedom of and freedom from religion."

Policies like the president's faith-based initiative or efforts to keep the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance show that Bush is dedicated to using the power of the state to advance religion, argued Dave Silverman, communications director for American Atheists.

"He wants all Americans, including over 30 million non-religious citizens, to subsidize religion-based social programs, and he wants to protect ceremonial religious rituals like the post-1954 Pledge of Allegiance," said Silverman.

Silverman accused Bush of trying to turn the government into a "religion bully."

"President Bush goes far beyond keeping his faith to himself. He's trying to turn our government into a 'religion bully' where the state enforces religious belief and religious correctness. That's un-American," he concluded.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanatheists; unamerican; undergod
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To: kattracks

Silverfish was on Joe country last night. He is an anti-American punk.


21 posted on 01/14/2005 3:44:01 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: 7.62 x 51mm; kattracks
Ellen Johnson, president of American Atheists: eff you, whorebag, subhuman, degenerate, lowlife subhuman filth! Crawl back under your slimy rock, bitch.

Could you clarify exactly how you feel about her.
I`m getting a negative impression here.(ha ha)

22 posted on 01/14/2005 3:44:13 PM PST by carlr
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To: oh8eleven

To "BFD" and "TFB", I add a hearty "WFD"!!!

Or for a slightly cleaner version from Stripes, "Lighten up, Francis..."


23 posted on 01/14/2005 3:44:42 PM PST by Christian4Bush ("Dear Dems: Your message got out. A popular and electoral majority of voters rejected it. The End.")
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To: KJC1
I want to bang my head against the wall. Or bang their heads against the wall.

I'll help you with the later.

LVM

24 posted on 01/14/2005 3:44:44 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Political head butting is nothing compared to tectonic plate head butting.)
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To: kattracks

Wow... for people who don't believe in God, they sure are quick to take offense at those who do. I mean if He doesn't exist, what President Bush said about his faith should beside the point and it certainly should have drawn a yawn instead of howls of indignant protests. Are atheists in fact conceding what other people believe matters to them more than they think? It sure looks like it.


25 posted on 01/14/2005 3:46:04 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: anniegetyourgun

"I'm beginning to think that atheists have a knee-jerk-offense-taking syndrome."

Yes. They tend to be highly anxious neurotic people who are frightened by the very concept of reliance on a higher power.

People like these two twits are pimples on the ass of the body politic and normal people can be forgiven for the temptation to go out of our ways to offend them at every possible opportunity.


26 posted on 01/14/2005 3:46:08 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: kattracks

They pretty much prove the President's point with their mindless, bitter, hateful comments.


27 posted on 01/14/2005 3:46:39 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: AmishDude
"I've never encountered anyone who proselytizes as much as some atheists."

Because atheism is the least logical religion of all....

28 posted on 01/14/2005 3:46:43 PM PST by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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To: kattracks
'seculars' are one of the fastest growing segments of American society," said Ellen Johnson, president of American Atheists.

Well, Ellen. Feel free to get an atheist elected. Then they can make whatever comments they care to about their beliefs. Otherwise, you sound like a fussbudget.

29 posted on 01/14/2005 3:46:51 PM PST by siunevada
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To: kattracks
GFY!
30 posted on 01/14/2005 3:47:59 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (With God, I will never be alone again.)
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To: kattracks

Atheists want attention and will do anything to get it. Does this sound like a bunch of two year-olds? Uh huh.


31 posted on 01/14/2005 3:48:14 PM PST by hershey
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To: kattracks
Found his opinion offensive? Now they are our self appointed thought police. Pres Bush didn't say it was fact or law, but his thought. They have a different thought. And I don't care for their thought, but it doesn't offend me. These atheists aren't just knee jerk reactionists, they're big babies, too.
32 posted on 01/14/2005 3:48:31 PM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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To: kattracks
Bush's Remarks on Religion Offends Atheists

"Well La-Dee-Freaking-Da!"

33 posted on 01/14/2005 3:48:37 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: kattracks
Thank you, LORD, for the faith of GWB.

He doesn't hide it under a bushel, nor does he apologize.

May we all be as bold.

34 posted on 01/14/2005 3:49:20 PM PST by mombonn ( ¡Viva Bush/Cheney! Dukakis and Kerry are the matching bookends of the Bush era.)
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To: kattracks
she said. "We have freedom of and freedom from religion."

Whoa! Freedom FROM religion????

When this woman fell out of the stupid tree, she must have hit EVERY branch on the way down!

35 posted on 01/14/2005 3:52:48 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am not a 'legal entity')
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To: mombonn

GOD BLESS GEORGE BUSH, AND THE ATHEISTS REMARKS OFFENDS ME


36 posted on 01/14/2005 3:55:25 PM PST by mammer
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To: kattracks

"...we do not have a religious test for those seeking public office."

Someone needs to tell the stupid atheists that "we do not have a religious test for those seeking public office." The president can believe anything he wants!

These people would be offended no matter what. The good thing is that the more regular people hear from these hysterical folks, the better for our side.


37 posted on 01/14/2005 4:01:22 PM PST by Owl558 (Please excuse my poor spelling)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Well, Madeleine Murray O'Hare died and someone had to pick up the torch.


38 posted on 01/14/2005 4:03:06 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: kattracks

In a related story, Bush's remark on crime offends criminals. Film at 11.


39 posted on 01/14/2005 4:06:32 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: goldstategop

>Are atheists in fact conceding what other people believe
>matters to them more than they think?

When you live out atheism, this is what you do, you become man-centric.

>"We have freedom of and freedom from religion."

Atheists are too quick to keep Christians from their "of" in the name of their own "from".

>He wants all Americans, including over 30 million
>non-religious citizens, to subsidize religion-based social
>programs...

Which *are* the most effective when you look at the hard numbers.


40 posted on 01/14/2005 4:06:42 PM PST by ROTB
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