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Ridge Seeks Fingerprints on Passports
Associated Press ^ | LARA JAKES JORDAN

Posted on 01/13/2005 10:28:04 AM PST by Jay777

WASHINGTON - Americans' fingerprints should be added to their passports, outgoing Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Wednesday, hoping to include the United States in a growing global security standard but risking a privacy fight at home.

Ridge said passports could ideally include biometric finger scans — for all 10 fingers — to help customs officials quickly and accurately identify U.S. travelers. He offered no details on how the plan might deal with privacy concerns or guard against international identity theft.

"If we're going to ask the rest of the world to put fingerprints on their passports, we ought to put our fingerprints on our passports," Ridge said in a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies before heading overseas to talk about security ties with the European Union (news - web sites).

"Now, culturally, historically, there are a lot of reasons that some countries are averse or very reluctant to give people finger scans," Ridge said. He said that by offering assurances that use would be limited and benefits would be significant, "we could get the world to move more quickly toward a common international standard."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; biometrics; bordersecurity; csis; dhs; privacy; tomridge
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1 posted on 01/13/2005 10:28:05 AM PST by Jay777
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To: Jay777

not a chance in hell it will pass in the US. Big brother conspiracies will fly.


2 posted on 01/13/2005 10:37:04 AM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Jay777

Hmm. yet another reason not to get a passport.


3 posted on 01/13/2005 10:39:51 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Alex Marko

Many states require fingerprint to drive.

Americans will lick any boot presented to them.


4 posted on 01/13/2005 10:42:36 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Jay777

This is really needed!

The animal rights lunatics got passports issued for pets.

Ok, it is a good idea to be able to identity your animal while traveling....

BUT, there are no distinguishing features between human passports and the animals.

I have a picture of a falcon passport here on this doc:

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce/FalconPassports.doc

Changing a picture from an animal to a human is not that hard.


5 posted on 01/13/2005 10:43:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

except you are not 38 inches high and 9 lbs.


6 posted on 01/13/2005 10:53:51 AM PST by Alex Marko
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To: AdamSelene235

what states do you need fingerprints to drive?


7 posted on 01/13/2005 10:55:05 AM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Jay777

My passport expires in 2010.
I wonder how this effects older passports.


9 posted on 01/13/2005 10:57:13 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: Jay777
Ridge said passports could ideally include biometric finger scans — for all 10 fingers — to help customs officials quickly and accurately identify U.S. travelers

Considering that customs and immigration officers didn't even look at my passport on the last 2 trips outside the US I have made, I doubt this is going to mean jack for security. They just waved me through as soon as they saw the cover and ran it through the little machine scanner.

10 posted on 01/13/2005 10:58:37 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: Alex Marko
what states do you need fingerprints to drive?

Texas requires a thumbprint ... but you can easily smudge it in the scanner.

11 posted on 01/13/2005 10:59:25 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: Alex Marko

Am too!

;)

Actually, this was being used as an identity issue. So maybe there was more doctoring than just a picture.


12 posted on 01/13/2005 11:01:06 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Alex Marko
Fingerprinting states
13 posted on 01/13/2005 11:03:55 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Calpernia

lol, its not that easy to forge a US passport. unless you are willing to spend 15 to $20,000. Dont even bother talking about it. It gets scanned..and when the computer reads out...Dog and you are a 5'9 blonde...i doubt very much he will think "dog" as in ugly woman.


14 posted on 01/13/2005 11:06:06 AM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko

California and Oklahoma require a thumbprint.


15 posted on 01/13/2005 11:06:20 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: Alex Marko

The passport confusion I read about wasn't in US. It was overseas.


16 posted on 01/13/2005 11:07:44 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Publius Valerius
Hmm. yet another reason not to get a passport.

Actually when ID is demanded it is often more private to provide a passport when a DL is expected.

The passport doesn't have your address on it or SSN or DL number. And its usually the case the government droid can't refuse your passport as ID.

I was recently detained by TSA and insisted on using my passport over my DL. They very clearly wanted the goodies on my DL but they had to be satisfied with the passport.

17 posted on 01/13/2005 11:09:39 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: mdhunter

If you've got to have paperwork to go there, count me out.


18 posted on 01/13/2005 11:10:09 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Calpernia

My Mum got my dog a passport.

I do not know why though as they never take her on holiday.

They got her microchipped as well.


19 posted on 01/13/2005 11:11:31 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: AdamSelene235
The passport doesn't have your address on it or SSN or DL number

In my state, driver's licenses only contain SSN if the driver requests it to be on the license.

20 posted on 01/13/2005 11:11:36 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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