Posted on 01/13/2005 8:00:33 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Gay activists and their supporters often say, "Why would someone choose to be gay?" But why would someone want to change political parties? Why would someone want to change their religion? Maybe it's just what they feel like they need to do, or be.
Gay activists and their supporters often resort to using this phrase or one similar to it. They state: Why would someone choose to be gay in a world where they will face grief and opposition over their sexual orientation?
To which I respond: Why would a Muslim choose to convert to Christianity in a region of the world like Sudan or Iran where they will face grief, opposition, persecution, or even death over their religious orientation?
As well, why would someone choose to change their political orientation, to say Republican, in a family which is strictly union Democrat, and which has voted exclusively Democrat for generations, when they will face grief and opposition over their political orientation?
Now, some may respond that you cannot compare sexual orientation with political or religious orientation, since one makes the choice to convert from one religion or political orientation to another, and that one doesn't choose to be gay, that they are "born that way."
Gays aren't "born that way", though.
Numerous scientific studies, posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1300464/posts, show these things:
1.) Environment plays a strong role in homosexuality developing. Almost all of the experts who have done some type of study on homosexuality say that homosexuality cannot be explained apart from reference to environmental factors.
2.) There is a strong prevalance of same-sex sexual abuse in the childhoods of homosexuals.
3.) Many homosexuals themselves link their homosexuality to their sexual victimization experiences.
4.) Gender Identity Disorder, gender confusion and other environmental factors have been shown to play a role in homosexuality developing in some individuals.
5.) There is no "gay gene." Identical-Twin studies, as well as other studies, have smashed this possibility.
6.) Personal choice, to some degree, is involved in all behaviors, sexual or otherwise. Even some lesbians agree with this. Genetic or environmental factors are never overwhelming.
So, you can see that the argument of "Why would someone choose to be gay in a world where they will face grief and opposition over their sexual orientation", doesn't hold water, and neither does the lie of gays being "born that way."
I have to disagree. I've known a few guys in grade school who were fruity even back then. They then grew up to be full blown homos (no pun intended, well,,,,maybe). You could pick em out even back then.
I imagine that many have heard the phrase "why would someone choose to be gay...." many times. I know that I have heard it countless times. Just thought that I would post a thread which deals with this.
For whomever is interested, here's the link to the scientific studies which show that gays aren't "born that way."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1300464/posts
How, and when did the term gay start being applied to homosexuals?
Every homosexual that I personally know is anything but gay. Most are downright miserable.
Yeah but that could still be their upfetchins. It doesn'r mean their attractions were determined by genetics.
For the same reason some choose to have sex with sheep.
I believe Hollyweird is making it seem "cool" to be a homosexual. It's the "in" thing. But I'm out.
Rather than be seen as failures and freaks in a normal society, they choose to become part of a sub-culture that celebrates freaks.
I was it was a poll about if you agree with the war or not, this is too vauge, but I voted anyway.
Good argument, but still has holes--like the guy who pointed out that you can spot "them" at a young age.
For the better singles mixers on Wednesday nights????
Mazel Tov!
Really?
You think heterosexuality was a choice you made?
Interesting.....for me it just came naturally.
How old were you when you realized that you wanted to be straight, and that the gay lifestyle had no appeal to you?
Did you have your doubts, as no doubt many adult Republicans had their teen flirtations with leftist ideals?
Do you think you could have been dissauded from your eventual choice by persuasive arguments, perhaps even by an offer of cash or preferment?
Are you sure you're set in your ways now, or is it still a matter of choice, akin to one's chosen career or pastime?
For me, I think I was born straight, but maybe I'm ust a hardwired and inflexible freak.
Maybe they just like it better that way, who knows
What difference does it make if it is a choice or not. People choose to ACT on their desires; does anyone choose to be attracted to children? This same argument could be used to defend pedophiles. The difference is that homosexuality is politically correct, socially excepted deviance, nothing more.
I do not know whether homosexuality is determined by some genetic predisposition, or what. However, I do not think it is much of a choice either. If one states that homosexuality is a choice that would mean that anyone could choose to be homosexual. I could not be homosexual. I am not sexually attracted to other men, and I believ this is the consensus between most people. We really cannot choose who we are sexually attracted to, we just are. I don't know why I find certain women attractive and others not, I just do. I think this is what most people including homosexuals experience.
whoops, sorry, wrong thread, sorry guys. delete both posts please.
"How, and when did the term gay start being applied to homosexuals?
Every homosexual that I personally know is anything but gay. Most are downright miserable."
Maybe they're just miserable around you.
;)
Normalcy is not a choice. Behavior, however, always is for humans of sound mind.
Interesting.....for me it just came naturally.
As it does for everyone who isn't mentally deranged into believing they're attracted to someone of the same sex.
I agree. I remember reading an article on FR some time back about how the proportion of high-schoolers nationally that self-identify as homosexual is far greater than the actual level of homosexuality found in the general population. And everyone knows how teenagers will do anything to be trendy and "individual" just like everyone else.
I am myself so uncool that it's cool.
I am pretty sure pedophiles are not really attracted to children. What they are attracted to is the power they feel by victimizing children.
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