Posted on 01/13/2005 8:00:33 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Gay activists and their supporters often say, "Why would someone choose to be gay?" But why would someone want to change political parties? Why would someone want to change their religion? Maybe it's just what they feel like they need to do, or be.
Gay activists and their supporters often resort to using this phrase or one similar to it. They state: Why would someone choose to be gay in a world where they will face grief and opposition over their sexual orientation?
To which I respond: Why would a Muslim choose to convert to Christianity in a region of the world like Sudan or Iran where they will face grief, opposition, persecution, or even death over their religious orientation?
As well, why would someone choose to change their political orientation, to say Republican, in a family which is strictly union Democrat, and which has voted exclusively Democrat for generations, when they will face grief and opposition over their political orientation?
Now, some may respond that you cannot compare sexual orientation with political or religious orientation, since one makes the choice to convert from one religion or political orientation to another, and that one doesn't choose to be gay, that they are "born that way."
Gays aren't "born that way", though.
Numerous scientific studies, posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1300464/posts, show these things:
1.) Environment plays a strong role in homosexuality developing. Almost all of the experts who have done some type of study on homosexuality say that homosexuality cannot be explained apart from reference to environmental factors.
2.) There is a strong prevalance of same-sex sexual abuse in the childhoods of homosexuals.
3.) Many homosexuals themselves link their homosexuality to their sexual victimization experiences.
4.) Gender Identity Disorder, gender confusion and other environmental factors have been shown to play a role in homosexuality developing in some individuals.
5.) There is no "gay gene." Identical-Twin studies, as well as other studies, have smashed this possibility.
6.) Personal choice, to some degree, is involved in all behaviors, sexual or otherwise. Even some lesbians agree with this. Genetic or environmental factors are never overwhelming.
So, you can see that the argument of "Why would someone choose to be gay in a world where they will face grief and opposition over their sexual orientation", doesn't hold water, and neither does the lie of gays being "born that way."
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My how indoctinated you are! It's too bad you have been so sucked in by all the lies.
what's getting shoved down your throat? Is someone telling you that you are going to hell for who you are attracted to? is someone threating to amend the Constitution to keep you from marrying? not letting you adopt?
well, don't boys see getting some action for themselves as an even BIGGER turn on?
One would think so, but you would have to ask the guys about that LOL Most guys do think it's a turn on for two girls to kiss, no idea why, but it's (for some) a guy thing.
"no one ever said that parents abuse their kids."
Oh really? How about this: "How do you know this guy wasn't molesting his sons as early as their infancy or toddlerhood?"
From this thread.
And what "lies" are those?
I know. But the turn-on isn't the end all. I don't think I've ever met a lesbian who got that way trying to turn guys on.
Again, no indication of parent abuse, but abuse from SOMEONE!
More and more we read news of children sexually abusing/molesting other kids. These kids are not born with sexual knowledge, they learn it somewhere!
The only lesson that I get from those type of shows its that the last person I would trust for fashion design is a group of flamers.
actually correction, the last person I would trust would be a girlfriend who insists I take advise from a group of flamers.
As to the democrat party, 2004 sets them as the Democrat ("gay") Party permanently.
"Why would someone choose to have another urinate on them?"
to alleviate a jellyfish sting? or perhaps on a dare, for lots of cash?
It's possible.
Some young teens develop a psychological propensity to try crime, such as stealing a bicycle or stealing clothes or a pack of cigarettes at the local store.
If they are successful at committing the crime, they get an adrenaline rush, just as they get an orgasmic rush when having gay sex.
Thus, they try it again and again.
Just as a misguided youth will turn into a hardened criminal, spending his waking hours thinking about crime, so will a misguided youth turn gay, spending their waking hours thinking about how to further gay relationships.
Much of it is sex driven initially, I believe. If a person gets their rocks off enough times, whether by a man or woman, they will change their sexual attitudes.
There again, while the desire may not be a choice ie: to choose to desire, acting on that desire IS a choice.
This statement contradicts the opening post. The studies cited indicate that the desires are what people supposedly have control over -- that homosexuals choose their desires. No one questions that acting on those desires is a cognitive choice. Most conservatives posting on this thread believe that the desire itself is not something anyone is born with.
My own personal belief about marriage is that government has only a tenuous right to legislate marital legitimacy. That said, any society that legitmizes homosexual marriage is a society in decay. If enough people raise enough stink about their right to marry someone of the same sex, then it will eventually happen. That doesn't mean it's OK in any spiritual or psychological sense. It just means the lunatics have the asylum keys today.
Adoption: same basic philosophy as with marriage. If two people want to adopt, legally they should be able to. But as we are a society in decay, that reality misses the whole point. Homosexuals are by definition dysfunctionally developed with regard to relating. Men who do not know how to be men, women who do not know how to be women cannot be expected to optimally instill a healthy identity in adopted kids.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply.
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