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To: Long Cut
Some of them make me wonder how I voted for the same guy as some of these posters.

Yes. There are a lot of people here who live regular liberal lives and have total liberal values of the day and times wherein they think the typical garbage out forth in the MSM (eg a Kid Rock) is fine and even good or, funniest of all, entertaining.

They are probably young and a lot of people change their political afiliation with age -- both ways.

The people sticking up for Kid Rock here are fully inculcated with the MSM values and morals. Definitely much closer to Clinton than Bush or Reagan in their outlook on life and values.

Its great that somehow they think they are conservative or Republican and they vote that way.

The communists had a term for it called useful idiot.

52 posted on 01/13/2005 7:20:23 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

The social conservative victory was once of symbolism, not substance. They won this round, and the moral relativists and hedonists lost. However, there are far more important battles, like remaking the composition of the Supreme Court. Many of the songs Kid Rock has performed are emblematic of the moral decline of our nation and the coarsening of American culture. However, I would rather have Kid Rock perform if the Bush Administration promised to select two or three strict constructionist, original intent justices to the Supreme Court and use their influence to assure Senate confirmation.


54 posted on 01/13/2005 7:50:47 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: tallhappy; Gabz; FierceDraka; Howlin; Ginifer; exnavychick; Tempest; TheBigB; JeffAtlanta; NCPAC; ..
" Its great that somehow they think they are conservative or Republican and they vote that way. The communists had a term for it called useful idiot..."

Few posts leave me speechless anymore. Feel honored.

I'm SO glad to see that there are people who feel that the millions of voters who pulled the lever for the President are "useful idiots", simply because they do not toe some particular moral or religious line. Oh, and that they are apparently subject to manipulation by one segment of conservatism.

You just slandered about 80% of conservative GWB voters.

I thought I'd seen it all.

Someone, wake me when this nightmare is over.

57 posted on 01/13/2005 8:42:29 AM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: tallhappy
The communists had a term for it called useful idiot.

How kind of you. Nice way to debate...insulting other posters. Tunnel vision is unbecoming, as is painting with a broad brush.

62 posted on 01/13/2005 8:46:12 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: tallhappy
The people sticking up for Kid Rock here are fully inculcated with the MSM values and morals. Definitely much closer to Clinton than Bush or Reagan in their outlook on life and values.

I dare you to say that to me.

67 posted on 01/13/2005 8:53:28 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Modernman; Melas; MineralMan; antiRepublicrat; Bella_Bru; Poohbah
I just had to ping you guys to #52. Ya just gotta see some stuff to believe it. Particularly this...

" Its great that somehow they think they are conservative or Republican and they vote that way. The communists had a term for it called useful idiot."

Apparently, 80 percent or so of the GOP who are not members of the Christian Right are "useful idiots".

104 posted on 01/13/2005 10:09:43 AM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: tallhappy

That was almost coherent. Not that it mattered, because your conclusion wouldn't have been any better even if it had been better presented. No wonder I was pinged to this post.


109 posted on 01/13/2005 10:21:26 AM PST by Melas
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To: tallhappy
Its great that somehow they think they are conservative or Republican and they vote that way. The communists had a term for it called useful idiot.

We vote that way because we support what is supposed to be the Republican Party's fiscal conservatism.

110 posted on 01/13/2005 10:24:02 AM PST by malakhi
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To: tallhappy
The communists had a term for it called useful idiot.

Have ever considered that the media is using you and fellow theo-cons as "useful idiots"? Your group is as poisonous to conservatives as gay marriage is to liberals.

By being such a vocal, uptight, socially repressed group - the theo-cons chase away any chance we will ever have with the young vote. We're not going to have the war on terror issue (the one that reelected GWB) forever.

The media is only too happy to put our "useful idiots" on display whenever they get a chance. Think about it - the media is primarily liberal and goes out of its way to put a bad spin on conservatives. Who does the media put up on display as the poster child of conservatives? Theo-cons and bible thumpers. They know it alienates voters and our "useful idiots" are all to happy to accommodate.

155 posted on 01/13/2005 11:02:23 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: tallhappy

Wow, get in line, toe the line, straighten up and fly right! You must abide by OUR stringent moral and ethical standards or there will be no pudding for you!!!

Sheesh, you EXTREMES should take a moment to listen to yourselves, you my realize why the MSM is branding you the labels they are.

JMHO….


215 posted on 01/13/2005 12:55:36 PM PST by The SISU kid (I'm the swizzle stick in the cocktail of life)
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To: tallhappy
Who are you........a reincarnation of Oliver Cromwell?

I've never heard anything Kid Rock's sung.I couldn't pick him out of a lineup,if my life depended on it. But,at least I know that he isn't part of the MSM (MAINSTREAM MEDIA),which refers to NEWS sources such as CBSABCNBC and most newspapers.And since you brought it up,the MSM claimed that Kid Rock would be at one of the Inaugural balls,but today,in the N.Y. Post (which is a CONSEREVATIVE NEWS PAPER,FYI),it was stated by his representatives,that Kid Rock was NEVER going to be there in the first place.

There was a time,not all that long ago,really,when nobody,Conservative or Liberal,would vote for a divorced politician.Yet Conservatives,en mass,turned out to elect a divorced Ronald Reagan! So I think you really should rethink (if you ever "thought" about it in the first place!)your oh so rigid morality stance.

Would you rather the Dems had won every race this past election season,because YOU think that most of those who helped elect President Bush just aren't "moral" enough?

222 posted on 01/13/2005 2:59:44 PM PST by nopardons
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