Sounds like they need to give these guys a forgiveness for this time just like they do to illegal aliens. Hey Illigals, where's the tax money you owe our government ??
And when I didn't feel like driving to AZ, I had friends in the area buy 'em and ship 'em to me. Then I'd PayPal 'em the money.
People thought I was paranoid until California won a court case and started handing out tax bills to smokers just like NY is doing now. Now I imagine those same folks who laughed at my caution are now doing the same thing I did to avoid the fascist nanny state.
Oh maaaaan...I know plenty of people who will be hurtin from this...this is bad news.
Why don't they just cut to the chase and set up gas chambers for smokers?
Clair Wolfe
Whatever happened to this clause???
No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
I got one for ya PING!
Sounds like New York smokers need to learn the art of rolling their own. I did and will never go back.
To me, the real story is how did NYC manage to get out-of-state cigarette vendors to give up info on their customers?
HUH? Been doing it for years this way & never had a problem - why is there a problem now?
Because the government isn't getting it's tax (extortion) money.
That's ok though. I've gone a step further than rolling my own. Now I GROW my own and the entire collective governments and all their alphabet agencies can kiss my big, white, all-American butt!
New York has lost an estimated $77 million in revenue, $50 million in wages and 3,000 jobs(including McDonald's, Starbuck's and liquor stores) after its ban started.
California's hospitality industry grew by 8 percent after its smoking ban was implemented;
the rest of the nation saw hospitality grow by 30 percent to 35 percent. In Massachusetts,
a legislator is already proposing to roll back its smoking ban because of lost revenues
Ping!
**I guess SheLion's not up yet; or she's busy**
(I posted this down below by accident so I'm putting it up top here now, I'm new to this site)
Hi everyone. I stumbled across this site and signed up because I am Andrew Hoffer's fiance. He's the man that has been interviewed by NY channels: CBS 2, FOX 5, ABC 7, WWOR-UPN 9, and WBIX 11 plus was in the NY Post page 2, even on the radio and reporters are still calling today (1/14/05). In response to how they got the customers names: There was a court case filed against at least one online cigarette website company and the company was forced to hand over their list of the thousands of customers. Andy only used the internet to obtain his cigarettes because he smokes and enjoys a very obscure brand which isn't sold anywhere but he found it was sold online. He wasn't doing this for the purpose of avoiding tax anyway, he simply saw the brand he'd been looking for and ordered. Scarey thing is that whatever you order online, with your credit card, whatever you have delivered to your house is KNOWN about. Talk about big brother.. The letter stated not only that he purchased 67 cartons from July 2002 to April 2004 but it said basically they know 67 cartons were delivered, meaning signed for. If anyone wants to know more, I rather not speak for him but I'm sure if anyone has questions he'll come on here and answer them. I will tell him about this website when he wakes up. On one news channel he did compare this to the Boston Tea Party, don't know if any of you saw that. Anyway, I figured the public should know what's going on and how this is much more then simply having to pay $1,005 tax for the past 2 years. It's invasion of privacy, civil rights violations, much more then just about cigarette tax. Well, any questions you all want the answers to, I'm sure he'd be willing to answer any questions that the media may not have told you. Oh and if doesn't pay this money in less than 30 days, they said: garnishment of wages, taking the money from his personal bank account PLUS he would have to pay $200 per carton which equals about $13,400 and possible lawsuit. Something is very wrong here.
Sincerely,
Adrienne Fox