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To: kattracks

To me, the real story is how did NYC manage to get out-of-state cigarette vendors to give up info on their customers?


15 posted on 01/13/2005 7:24:02 AM PST by Ranxerox
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To: Ranxerox

"RANXEROX"?!?!
I used to LOVE that cartoon!!


18 posted on 01/13/2005 7:26:24 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: Ranxerox
To me, the real story is how did NYC manage to get out-of-state cigarette vendors to give up info on their customers?

That was my thought as well.

21 posted on 01/13/2005 7:38:27 AM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: Ranxerox

Hi everyone. I stumbled across this site and signed up because I am Andrew Hoffer's fiance. He's the man that has been interviewed by NY channels: CBS 2, FOX 5, ABC 7, WWOR-UPN 9, and WBIX 11 plus was in the NY Post page 2, even on the radio and reporters are still calling today (1/14/05). In response to how they got the customers names: There was a court case filed against at least one online cigarette website company and the company was forced to hand over their list of the thousands of customers. Andy only used the internet to obtain his cigarettes because he smokes and enjoys a very obscure brand which isn't sold anywhere but he found it was sold online. He wasn't doing this for the purpose of avoiding tax anyway, he simply saw the brand he'd been looking for and ordered. Scarey thing is that whatever you order online, with your credit card, whatever you have delivered to your house is KNOWN about. Talk about big brother.. The letter stated not only that he purchased 67 cartons from July 2002 to April 2004 but it said basically they know 67 cartons were delivered, meaning signed for. If anyone wants to know more, I rather not speak for him but I'm sure if anyone has questions he'll come on here and answer them. I will tell him about this website when he wakes up. On one news channel he did compare this to the Boston Tea Party, don't know if any of you saw that. Anyway, I figured the public should know what's going on and how this is much more then simply having to pay $1,005 tax for the past 2 years. It's invasion of privacy, civil rights violations, much more then just about cigarette tax. Well, any questions you all want the answers to, I'm sure he'd be willing to answer any questions that the media may not have told you. Oh and if doesn't pay this money in less than 30 days, they said: garnishment of wages, taking the money from his personal bank account PLUS he would have to pay $200 per carton which equals about $13,400 and possible lawsuit. Something is very wrong here.

Sincerely,
Adrienne Fox


38 posted on 01/14/2005 9:40:13 AM PST by HoggerFox (This is Andrew Hoffer's fiance, pertaining to this cigarette tax mess)
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