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Gregoire certified as governor of Washington (will be sworn in tomorrow)
Seattle P-I ^ | 1/11/05 | REBECCA COOK

Posted on 01/11/2005 4:02:08 PM PST by nyg4168

OLYMPIA, Wash. -- Democrat Christine Gregoire was certified as the governor of Washington state on Tuesday, while outside the Capitol her supporters traded jeers with protesters across a line of state troopers.

Inside the Capitol, Republicans' attempt to delay the election certification failed after an hour of almost surreally polite debate.

Gregoire lost the first two counts in the amazingly close election, but won by just 129 votes after a hand recount of 2.9 million ballots. Next comes Gregoire's inauguration, planned for Wednesday - and then it's on to the courts. The first hearing in Republican Dino Rossi's election challenge is scheduled for Friday.

"No do-over, no delay," said Senate Majority Leader Lisa Brown, D-Spokane. "Let's move on with the business of the Legislature."

Republicans pleaded in vain for a waiting period.

A two-week delay is a small price to pay to restore confidence in this election," said Rep. Mike Armstrong, R-Wenatchee. "This is a historic time and we cannot afford to rush this process."

During the counting and recounting of the governor's election, many questions and discrepancies have surfaced. The main argument in the Republican's lawsuit is that King County, a Democratic stronghold and the state's largest county, cannot match more than a thousand votes to actual voter names. That discrepancy, Rossi argues, makes the election invalid on its face.

Democrats disagree, saying the state constitution sets a very high bar for throwing out the results of an election. They say the revote that Rossi wants would be unconstitutional.

While the debate in the state House and Senate's joint session was oh-so-civilized, supporters of Rossi and Gregoire screamed their frustrations at one another at dueling rallies on the Capitol lawn.

More than 1,000 Rossi supporters were there demanding a revote, and about 200 Gregoire supporters held a counter-demonstration. Chants of "revote!" overpowered the cries of "Go home Rossi!"

Norman Le, 70, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Vietnam, wore a sticker proclaiming "Dino Rossi is my governor."

"Three times they counted and they come up with three different results - it makes no sense at all," Le said. "They should fix it. It's not too late. ... If we have a governor who is elected in a flawed election, that governor does not have the respect of the people to govern. The whole state will suffer."

Pro-Rossi demonstrators held signs saying "Heal Washington: Revote," "Gregoire: Stealing Democracy," and "Re-Elect Rossi 2005."

Across the street, and separated by state troopers, Gregoire supporter Rhenda Strub held a homemade sign saying "Dino, your horse is dead."

"It's time for him to end his temper tantrum and move on," said Strub, 49, of Olympia.

No arrests were reported from the dueling rallies, which dissipated in the early afternoon.

A court hearing for Rossi's election challenge is set for Friday in Chelan County Superior Court in Wenatchee. The case will most likely end up in the state Supreme Court.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: christinegregoire; dinorossi; fraud; governor; gregoire; revote; rossi; stealingelections; themostcorruptstate; washington; washingtonstate
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To: judywillow
They need some sort of a massive protest as was seen recently in the Ukraine. That one showed the world that it can be done.

This is not Ukraine.

There is ample evidence of fraud.

Rossi and his friends have wasted weeks appealing to public opinion, which can do nothing, and have failed to file suit to stop this process in a court of competent jurisdiction.

That has been a major error.

21 posted on 01/11/2005 4:29:19 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Spunky
There is a hearing before the court in Chelan on Friday

This is one other little nit-pick I have with the GOP strategy in this whole mess. Going all the way to Chelan County to contest the election looks like forum shopping. It makes them look like they're just trying to find whatever friendly judge they can. It also bothered me that they went to Pierce County to file their suit to stop the re-count in King County. Again, it looked like they were just looking for GOP judges. Perhaps that was the point, but it didn't sit very well with me and I think was bad PR. I thought all these cases should have been either in the county where the dispute arose or in Thurston County (were the capital, Olympia, is). Thoughts?
22 posted on 01/11/2005 4:29:46 PM PST by nyg4168
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To: nyg4168

I await the Chelan judge's edict.....


23 posted on 01/11/2005 4:30:28 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: IronMan04
"No do-over, no delay," said Senate Majority Leader Lisa Brown, D-Spokane. "Let's move on with the business of the Legislature."

Of course, the b**** wasn't saying that after the first recount....and the second recount, was she? They had all the time in the world at that point.

24 posted on 01/11/2005 4:31:37 PM PST by Lizavetta (Modern liberalism: Where everyone must look different but think the same.)
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To: Jim Noble
Rossi and his friends have wasted weeks appealing to public opinion, which can do nothing, and have failed to file suit to stop this process in a court of competent jurisdiction.

Huh? Did you miss the part where he filed a contest of the election in state court? The first hearing is on Friday.

25 posted on 01/11/2005 4:34:32 PM PST by ecurbh (.. .-.. --- ...- . .... .- .. .-. --- ..-. - .... . -.. --- --.)
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To: Jim Noble

If they had enough to sue to overturn the results, they would have done so.


26 posted on 01/11/2005 4:39:11 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: Spunky

Will there be protests there as well?


27 posted on 01/11/2005 4:40:40 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: nyg4168
Amazing! An election is clearly stolen in Washington State and only 1000 people show up to protest.

Well, if the Washingtonians don't care enough to protest en masse, why should I care...?

28 posted on 01/11/2005 4:40:52 PM PST by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Basketball! Win CCS!)
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To: Jim Noble
Do-overs are for losers and babies.

Rossi would have been within his rights to demand that the hand-count be invalidated because election workers altered ballots in a manner expressly forbidden my law, and the number of altered ballots exceeds the Rat margin of victory. On the other hand, even if he had managed to win such a challenge, he would have been tarred as having been "selected not elected".

State law does provide for a revote in situations where a combination of negligence and/or malfeasance make it impossible to acertain the winner with confidence. Because the number of invalid votes is known to exceed the margin of victory by a factor of at least ten, that would certainly seem to be the case here.

29 posted on 01/11/2005 4:42:59 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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To: ecurbh
Huh? Did you miss the part where he filed a contest of the election in state court? The first hearing is on Friday

Unless they filed for an injunction to stop the seating of the losing candidate in the election, they have no hope.

30 posted on 01/11/2005 4:45:21 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: nyg4168
I really feel sorry for the people of Washington State
on this one. It is a true outrage. This may be a
dumb question but is GW allowed to step in with
the circumstances so blatantly fraudulent in King County?
31 posted on 01/11/2005 4:54:16 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First let's get rid of the UN and then the ACLU, or vice versa..)
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To: nyg4168; CyberCowboy777

I hope someone starts a recall effort in Washington!


32 posted on 01/11/2005 4:56:59 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: IronMan04

**This in an outrage. Could you imagine the media hype and the protest if the GOP Candidate had won only after three counts.**

I agree completely!


33 posted on 01/11/2005 4:57:57 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nyg4168
Democrats disagree, saying the state constitution sets a very high bar for throwing out the results of an election

Yes, the state constitution states that an election can only be thrown out if a republican wins. I think every elected republican in the state ought to just walk off the job. Pack up and move to a state where the people are honest.

34 posted on 01/11/2005 4:59:55 PM PST by McGavin999 (Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld's hide)
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To: nyg4168

This is a shame.


35 posted on 01/11/2005 5:05:23 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: judywillow

Agreed. Shut the state down.


36 posted on 01/11/2005 5:05:50 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: freebilly

By that standard, why even read posts on FreeRepublic?

But you're right, the turnout was pathetic.


37 posted on 01/11/2005 5:29:32 PM PST by Iconoclast2
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To: IronMan04
"This in an outrage. Could you imagine the media hype and the protest if the GOP Candidate had won only after three counts.",

After demanding re-counts until the desired result was claimed by a handful of new-found "votes", Gregoire had the classically-Democrat nerve to dismiss a Republican request for yet another re-count as "ludicrous".

If there is one thing that is consistent with liberals, it is their expectation of double standards. Althogh I'm not sure that is quite accurate terminology, since they expect standards they determine should be applied to their enemies but expect there to be no standards whatsoever for themselves.

38 posted on 01/11/2005 5:33:15 PM PST by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated
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To: Jim Noble

Apparently you're just not familiar with the law in the State of Washington. There is a clear process laid out in the law, and the Rossi camp has been working it with all deliberate speed.

The certification by the legislature today and the inaguration tomorrow are not things that can be stopped. The only option is to file a contest to the election, and that could only happen once the election was first certified by the Secretary of State. The secretary certified the election on last friday, and Rossi immediately filed the contest. The contest hearing is now scheduled to be heard in Chelan County on Friday.

The process is underway. The grounds for the contest are plentiful. We'll see what happens.


39 posted on 01/11/2005 5:45:57 PM PST by Ramius (Gregoirovich Nyet!)
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To: supercat

The law does not allow for a recount to be invalidated. The only option is to show before a judge that the election had sufficient irregularities to throw out the entire vote, and to conduct another vote.

That is the only mechanism in the law.


40 posted on 01/11/2005 5:48:20 PM PST by Ramius (Gregoirovich Nyet!)
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