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Apple releases $499 Imac!!!
www.apple.com ^ | 1stFreedom

Posted on 01/11/2005 2:03:19 PM PST by 1stFreedom

For all us Windows fans who felt Macs were just too pricey, now there is good news. Apple has released the "mini Mac" for $499.

While the $499 model doesn't come with a keyboard or mouse, standard USB keyboards and mice (including two button wheel mice) will work with the unit.

See http://www.apple.com/macmini/ for more details.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; imac; imacmini; macuser
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To: MD_Willington_1976
The monitor requires DVI input or DVI to DB15 adaptor... So the bottom line is still not $499...

No, it doesn't, it comes with the adapter. Here is a graphic of the input/out puts of the mini from Apple's website:

They also state:

"Connect your USB keyboard and mouse. Then hook up your DVI or VGA display (adapter included)."

81 posted on 01/11/2005 6:50:31 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: edchambers

I had problems with USB when I used Windows machines. That was before XP, so I can't speak to how well it works with USB, USB2 or firewire, but Windows ME, NT, 98 and 2000 were not good on USB support.


82 posted on 01/11/2005 9:12:19 PM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: Tinhatter

>>For 500 bucks I could build something that absolutely blows that machine off the map. And with a better OS to boot in Linux.

I'd like to see what you propose. Granted this isn't a G5, but he first mistake most people make is to compare clockspeed. 1.25ghz G4 is not like a 1.25ghz Pentium 4 -- it's much faster.

And as far as Linux being better, that is subjective. What can you do on Linux that you can't on a Mac? I've run FreeBSD programs on an IMac..

The Imac is headache free compared to building your own machines. I've built for our five machings by now and I'm tired of it and complete systems are low enough to make building it yourself not as much of a savings as it used to be.

Finally, the form factor is much nicer. I'd like to see you build something as sexy and small. (No, the Shuttle or mini itx doesn't compare.)


83 posted on 01/11/2005 10:09:01 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks for the ping! Must have been announced at the show?


84 posted on 01/11/2005 10:34:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html


85 posted on 01/11/2005 10:38:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: mnehrling

quote:
The specs are pretty OK for the price:
Mac mini houses a 1.25 or 1.42GHz G4 processor, 40 or 80GB hard drive, a slot-loading CD-R/DVD-ROM optical drive, 256MB DDR SDRAM and ATI Radeon 9200 graphics chip with 32MB dedicated DDR SDRAM — all whisper-quiet.

THE SPECS ARE GREAT, Apple is great, and so on, but only those know that, who use(d) both a Mac and a PC.
Pay more, get more - It's like real life.
... another one?
PCs are SHlT - get a Mac and give your PC to the Politically Correct.


86 posted on 01/12/2005 1:27:32 AM PST by critilo
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To: critilo
PCs are SHlT - get a Mac and give your PC to the Politically Correct.

Only if one considers their purchases political.

Thank gawd I don't, for I am happy as can be with my new $4800 Dell.

87 posted on 01/12/2005 1:43:04 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: 1stFreedom
The iMac is a sleek piece of eye candy. Adding a circa 1999 vga monitor, and old keyboard and mouse to it ruin the aesthetic. Conversely, adding a KVM will add wires and a second mouse to your desk if the windows PC is a gaming box.



Lots of visually interesting Mini-PC cases out there, most cost under $40.
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/redesign/products_enclosure.cfm?pName=DF-001
http://www.in-win.us/in-win/images/BT.jpg
http://www.serdexsolutions.fi/home.nsf/0/476F963B0E1C51F9C2256D7A003D0B83/$FILE/s600x3.jpg
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/redesign/products_enclosure.cfm?pName=TLM-454
http://www.xl-pc.com/scr/xtcat.dll/item?item=ATX-MT-300&pr=1&opt=4&frame=
88 posted on 01/12/2005 3:42:47 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: 1stFreedom; Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Good morning, I took your challenge to heart over breakfast, my local PC guy's website offers this. I left a few dollars extra to upgrade to a sleek case. Comes with shrinkwrap boxed OpenOffice 1.1, and a free after rebate color Epson printer.

Charles, I didn't even realize it, Apple is selling this as an "extension" to ITunes and IPod, who''s going to want a stock barebones integrated sound card for that? No one who knows the difference. This isn't elitist to others reading, the difference is as little as $20.

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remove  Cooling Fan Socket A, 370 1

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remove  512Mb PC3200 - 400MHz DDR Memory 1

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remove  WD Caviar™ 80GB Ultra100 7200rpm 8M 1

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remove  3.5" Floppy Disk Drive 1.44MB 1

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remove  Integrated 3D AGP Video 1

   
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25

   
remove  No CD/DVD-RW 1

   
remove  AC-97 3D Audio Controller 1

   
remove  ATX Tower Case 300W Power Supply 1

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remove  Windows XP Home Edition CD ver. 1

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remove  10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet 1

   
remove  1 Year Limited Warranty 1

   

89 posted on 01/12/2005 4:15:22 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Richard Kimball
The Mark II eh? 16.7mp, full frame sensor; that's gotta suck. ;-) Nice photo, 1600 or 3200 ISO?

I looked at one of those, just for giggles mind you cause the 20D took enough change as it was, but I'm just transitioning from film to digital. By the time I'm ready to upgrade I figure the Mark III or IV will probably be out. Now I gotta figure out if I'm going to keep my T-90 and Elan 7e. Yea, I think I will, it's hard to give up old friends.

90 posted on 01/12/2005 4:49:48 AM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: CLRGuy
I saw this.. and for the fist time I'm seriously tempted to buy a MAC... Development on my remote machine is just too much of a pain from Cygwin and Putty. I don't need a powerful machine... but something more linux-like would be nice. All through my undergraduate program I looked at my professor's OS X machines with envy.

I see this as not only a nice beginner's machine, suitable for use with your old PC's monitor, keyboard and mouse, but also as a great little server. I think that a few million of these will be running office websites very soon. You can connect it to an existing network of PC's, then VNC into it from the administrator's system - nothing else to buy!

91 posted on 01/12/2005 6:04:24 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: scab4faa

I debated Mac or upgrade on my CPU. Just last week I bought an Athlon 64 and a Gigabyte K8 triton motherboard.

I'm happy.


92 posted on 01/12/2005 6:09:04 AM PST by gortklattu (As the preacher in Blazing Saddles said "You're on your own.")
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To: 1stFreedom
... I program in C# / VB.Net.

And when Mono gets going, you'll be able to do that on Macs as well.

93 posted on 01/12/2005 6:10:10 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: July 4th
$499 is a teaser price. It's for the lowest speed processor, pathetic video memory, 40GB HD, and only 256MB of system memory.

That "pathetic" video is still a whole lot faster than the $499 Dell, which features an integrated Intel video chipset. Even Dell only claims it's good enough for 2D games.

(1) I have no idea what I'd do with it, and (2) By the time I pay tax, shipping, and get appropriate upgrades, this thing will probably cost over $800.

A basic one would make a great home server (small, quiet, takes little juice), and you wouldn't have to buy anything extra. Just borrow KVM from an existing computer, and set it up for whatever you want to do (firewall, NAT, mail, web, FTP, music server, etc.). Then set it up for remote administration and put your KVM back onto the other system. From then on you can control it remotely.

94 posted on 01/12/2005 6:12:04 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: JerseyHighlander
The $499 Mac mini comes with a 40 GB harddrive. That's pathetic. That's without mentioning the very cool cases available for barebone PC's with or without Windows/Linux, that can be had for as little as $400, with mouse, monitor and keyboard.

For $599 you can double that disk capacity to 80G. Now consider that you get not only Apple hardware build quality but a better GUI than Windows and a better Unix than Linux, and you can run them both at the same time. Try doing that with a PC.

95 posted on 01/12/2005 6:15:00 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: Revolting cat!

Very nice, I'm a big fan of Mr Rebenack.


96 posted on 01/12/2005 6:17:01 AM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: JerseyHighlander
I left a few dollars extra to upgrade to a sleek case.

It's always hard to compare apples and oranges (no pun). Your system has a bigger hard drive and more memory, but the VIA integrated graphics are no match for ATI. The audio is low-end too. You need to swap that DVD for a CD/RW+DVD ROM combo drive. You can save some money by ditching the floppy, but you need to buy a Firewire card. The Mac comes with much more useful software, and you also need to use Windows XP Pro to get even close to OS X (so add $100 there). Now you have to get the cool box.

97 posted on 01/12/2005 6:29:34 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: July 4th
I have one of these, which is intended for PCs but works fine with my Macs/iTunes. It has only 64 MB, but:

It's the size of Bic lighter
It runs on one AAA battery.
It plays music in the order you want.
It cost $80 a year ago.
You can buy bigger ones.
It also serves as a USB thumb drive.

98 posted on 01/12/2005 6:38:17 AM PST by hemogoblin (The few, the proud ... the 4 million.)
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To: mnehrling
"Mac mini houses a 1.25 or 1.42GHz G4 processor, 40 or 80GB hard drive, a slot-loading CD-R/DVD-ROM optical drive, 256MB DDR SDRAM and ATI Radeon 9200 graphics chip with 32MB dedicated DDR SDRAM"

I can get a used PC with these specs for $100 at a local used computer store. I looks like you're paying $400 for an OS. That may or may not be worth it depending on how well you like Macs. I don't want to get into the Mac v. PC argument, I've always thought one should just use what they like best. If you like it and it gets the work (or play) done which you want done then it is the computer for you. I'm just not sure that a computer with no monitor, keyboard or mouse with these specs at $500 is necessarily a good deal.

99 posted on 01/12/2005 6:56:32 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Swordmaker
OSX has built in recognition of most multi-button input devices... no drivers needed.

True, but I was replying to a question regarding if one could program the 2nd button to do other functions besides the default cmd-click.

100 posted on 01/12/2005 7:14:57 AM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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