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Washington Times - Bush Team Brushes Off Atheist's Lawsuit
The Washington Times ^ | January 11, 2005 | Jon Ward

Posted on 01/11/2005 8:31:05 AM PST by Jay777

A California atheist's lawsuit to prevent Christian clergy from praying in the presidential inauguration should be dismissed because it is a recycled case about an issue that does not violate the U.S. Constitution, attorneys for President Bush said. "There is no reason to 'reverse course' and abandon a widely accepted, noncontroversial aspect of the inaugural ceremony after over 200 years of this proper solemnization of a national event," the president's attorneys said in a 65-page response to the suit...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antitheist
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1 posted on 01/11/2005 8:31:07 AM PST by Jay777
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; ApesForEvolution; EdReform; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/11/2005 8:32:01 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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To: Jay777

Whatever happened to our right to practice our religion without persecution? The left want to take away that right on indefensible grounds.


3 posted on 01/11/2005 8:32:43 AM PST by Peach (The Cl intons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Jay777

Unbelievable......


4 posted on 01/11/2005 8:32:51 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Jay777
Will somebody just step on that insect Newdow and be done with it? He's like a damn blowfly - he eats crap and bothers people.


5 posted on 01/11/2005 8:33:55 AM PST by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: All
You can join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the following organizations:

Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org

Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org

The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/

Stop the ACLU Coalition - http://www.stoptheaclu.org


Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:

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Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit


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The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back

Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')

ACLU fulfilling communist agenda

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings

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7 posted on 01/11/2005 8:35:52 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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To: Jay777

A fitting conclusion to the President's brief would have been, "As ever, I remain your humble servant in Christ...and God save this Honorable Court."


8 posted on 01/11/2005 8:42:07 AM PST by MarkT
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To: Peach

Didn't you know? You are only a victim of persecution if the Left says you are. If you happen to be a white christian male you are never, ever, allowed to be a victim unless you are handicapped or gay.


9 posted on 01/11/2005 8:43:46 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (May the most you wish for be the least you get.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

You have that right. Exactly.


10 posted on 01/11/2005 8:44:52 AM PST by Peach (The Cl intons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Jay777

Where does it end? I am sooooooooooo sick of these idiots.


11 posted on 01/11/2005 8:45:52 AM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: TonyRo76

As the most visible face of the anti-Christian left, he is sufficiently unlikable that he may actual be very helpful in getting main stream America to tell the collective lot of them, enough is enough. (Activist judges are always a risk though I suppose.) A more engaging character fighting his causes may actually win converts. "Newdow-Dem 2008", I say.


12 posted on 01/11/2005 8:48:05 AM PST by thecanuck
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To: Viking2002

Newdow is a sociopath IMHO. It's only a matter of time before he completely messes up. I just hope he doesn't kill someone in the process.


13 posted on 01/11/2005 8:50:06 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: rockabyebaby

It doesn't end till we stop it, or Jesus returns, whichever comes first.


14 posted on 01/11/2005 8:52:18 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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To: Jay777

Appeal to tradition may not be the best approach here. The ACLU could argue that if the presence of a tradition is sufficient to establish a law, and the tradition is Christian, then such law would violate the Establishment clause.

Indeed, if this nation elected, perish the thought, an Atheist president -- or, e.g, a Bhuddist president, and that president would prefer not to swear on the Bible, no Bible-swearing would take place. The attributes of the Oath of Office reflect the religion of the office holder. When the office holder happens to be Christian, he follows Christian practices. No establishment of religion occurs when a Christian president swears on a Christian Bible.


15 posted on 01/11/2005 8:53:09 AM PST by annalex
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To: annalex

You are wrong. Appealing to tradition is the only argument that courts will accept in these things.

Anything else and it WILL get struck down.


16 posted on 01/11/2005 8:55:24 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: Jay777
Even if Newdow is successful in enjoining the President from referencing God, in the spirit of Andrew Jackson - who being presented with a Supreme Court decision to which he objected - is reported to have remarked, "they made their decision now let them enforce it."

Newdow has so used his 15 minutess of fame.

17 posted on 01/11/2005 8:56:10 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: GVgirl

Newdow needs to be gang tackled and taken down.
I don't care how big and loud you are, without an equally sized group of friends you are nothing New-duh.


18 posted on 01/11/2005 9:01:46 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: rwfromkansas

Why?


19 posted on 01/11/2005 9:02:24 AM PST by annalex
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20 posted on 01/11/2005 9:07:21 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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