Posted on 01/11/2005 6:41:46 AM PST by crushelits
Michael Chertnof - New HomeLand Security Secretary per Fox News
You get robbed by someone who stormed the front door. So lets lock the front door. Then you get robbed by someone who came through the back door, so then you lock the back door. Then you get robbed by someone who came through the windows, so you bar up the windows. Etc, Etc, Etc.
From a security standpoint, having open borders is insane.
Doesn't matter if they entered illegally. They overstayed their visas. Functionally still illegal immigrants.
centrist..aka terrorist friendly.
Chertoff, If nominated, Cannot be another Tom Ridge, In giving vague & most of the time, meaningless warnings. Also, He's got to get all the agencies on the same page, Something Ridge failed to do miserably.
Have you bothered to look at all the different agencies that are part of Homeland Security and all the rules and regulations they have to deal with? It is a lot more than Immigration and maybe if some of you folks could look beyond your one issue you would see that someone with a legal background is needed a lot more than someone with a gun background. Give me a law and order type prosecutor any day compared to law enforcement like the last one nominated!
fine, he's a good guy, conservative, with good legal/judicial credentials.
what does any of that have to do with running Homeland Security? Any law enforcement experience? Any "on the ground" experience with any of the types of agencies who conduct Homeland Security?
They gave up on trying to get a person with real world experience for the job. That's why we have a harvard law person now, instead of a police commissioner.
Know nothing about this guy....
But anyone's got to be better than Asa Hutchinson....thank God he was passed over.
Let me also respond to the previous speaker. By any measure, this legislation will improve our Nation's ability to protect against terrorism. The 9/11 Commission pointed out so well, and I quote them, ``Travel documents are as important as weapons.'' In a provision that I have long advocated for, and that was put in this legislation by the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. HYDE), we now have provisions that fortify the visa application process and ensure that our consuls abroad have to thoroughly interview those who are applying for a nonimmigrant visa and meticulously inspect their documents.
Let me remind my colleagues that those who committed the atrocities of 9/11 entered the U.S.legally. They got their visas. They went to one of our consuls in Saudi Arabia and, regrettably, the personnel there were giving out visas like cotton candy. The terrorists exploited a weakness in the system. So they came here legally. They were not illegal immigrants. And that point needs to be underscored.
This legislation with Chairman Hyde's language closes that loophole so that terrorist will be stopped before they get their visas. That's a critical provision in a bill with many, many new programs and I support it.
I'm kind of with you on that, they are separate issues but do overlap when you have a terrorist coming into this country via a "Coyote" at the Mexican border. I don't really have a problem w/ legal immigration as long as people are vetted before they come in and there is enforcement to kick people out when their visa's expire.
And as far as Tancredo hiring illegals I hadn't heard about that before but just did a bit of digging and found this. Kinda sounds like a ant hill being made into a mountain.
Asa's Out Ping!
I suppose someone lying about their country of birth, or birthday or name... would be examples.. Perhaps even lying for the purpose of entry??
If they outstayed their visas, they were illegals.
Illegals with drivers licenses.
Tancredo is no source. The man himself hires illegals to work on his own house.
Tancredo hired a contractor to do work on his house. The contractor was responsible for hiring the workers.
Yes, Chertoff's single question elicited such a bizarre reaction that people started looking very carefully into Lippo Group. Which in turn produced the Chinese political contributions scandals; the investigations of illegal export-controlled sales to the Chinese military; and the general corruption of the Clinton administration vis-a-vis Chinese money.
We'll never get to the bottom of it, but my final conclusion is that Lippo Group was a money-laundering and "fixer" organization that had completely coopted the Clintons, not to mention large numbers of Congressional officials.
As an aside, while I was working in Asia at the time, LippoBank started a branch which never opened its doors to the public, never lifted the venetian blinds, and had two armed guards at the doors for months on end. It was clearly a money laundering operation.
Benjamin Ginsberg advised the Swifties - they do look similar.
If the liberals hate him, he's probably perfect for the job.
And didn't the cop just issue him a citation?
Every nominee the liberals don't like and succeed in blocking should be replaced by a more conservative nominee.
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