Posted on 01/10/2005 8:43:06 AM PST by areafiftyone
Only people who think that politicians can't re-invent themselves think Hildebeast is DOA for '08. Take a Vietnam traitor with an uppity accent mix one part MSM and one part cold hard cash for production value-filled events and ads and you have a guy who came a little over 100K votes from winning the EC and the WH. Hillary is smarter than Kerry, doesn't have SwiftVets breathing down her neck, has a better relationship with the MSM, has novelty (as a woman and former first lady), and will have way more cash than Kerry had.
Whoa, many of you fear a win.
I don't. I think she will never win. Women that are heterosexual and with kids will comes out in droves to vote against her. Women realize she is twofaced. Women will give a Guy a pass on this one. But remember when a woman hates another woman that means something.
Secondly, a candiate has to "look" presidential. Hillary looks like a Telly-Tubby.
A Telly-Tubby can't be trusted to fight a war on terror. And trust me, sad but true, the world will see another Bali, another Madrid Spain, another African Embassy type attack and maybe another WTC I attack (small scale).
So the war on terror is here to stay.
Hillary is not.
I also totally agree with Morris that Guiliani is the only one who can beat Hillary. I know that will drive most here crazy.
of course, many of those voters would not actually support Hillary, and the Fox News poll was careful to precede the question by saying, “Regardless of whether you would vote for Hillary Clinton or not, …” the breadth of her acceptability indicates that she has passed the national threshold for political viability.
Nice though she is, Condi wouldn't stand a chance. Just go and ask your more liberal and moderate friends.
The big problem is that the GOP has no candidate with the necessary profile. What they need is someone who can make Florida competitive, and at the same time, pick off one or two Midwestern Blue States that Hillary will have to win, while nevertheless hanging onto all the other Red States.
The only possible Midwest ticket balancer that I can see is Norm Coleman, but I'm open to suggestions.
And she will get 42-46%, just as her husband did.
Absent H. Ross Perot, Bill Clinton would only have gotten into the White House as part of a public sightseeing tour. Clinton needed the help of a third party, because his support maxed out in the mid 40's.
Hillary! is seen as merely qualified by 80% of Kerry supporters, and unqualified by 13% with 7% (presumably) unsure. If Hillary! loses 13% of the Kerry vote, how is she going to replace it? She is left with 48% minus (48% * 13%), which leaves her at 41.5%
This is more or less what Bubba got in '92. But thanks to H. Ross Perot, it was enough. Hillary! will not be so lucky in 2008...
No, actually,it is well documented that she is a socialist, thus a devout communist. Far more dangerous than your average liberal.
i dont believe america want bill and hill back in the Oval Office.
"...Hillary is going to be far tougher to beat"
Hillary Rodham has an awful lot of baggage, from Cattlegate to Filegate to Pardongate. In a national campaign she would have to answer the tough questions she avoided when she oozed into New York. The Swifties were nothing compared to what Rodham's going to be hit with.
Um, yeah, but will the MSM cover any of it? Or if they do, will they spin it as more "politics of personal destruction?"
I hope you are right. But fear too many people would still be hoodwinked . . .
Which happens to be more or less Kerry's percentage of the vote in 2004. She needs to hold onto the ABB crowd as well as all the Kerry voters. And Hillary needs to hit the ground running early. And the Democratic as well as the Republican field will be crowded with aspirants. There's no guarantee she will even get the nomination. Look at what happened to Howard Dean on the way on the coronation.
Gun control is my litmus test. Support it and I'll vote for someone who doesn't. There is no lesser of two evils when it comes to this issue.
LOL it does drive most people here crazy but your're right!
I like Condi. BUT if she is the ONLY one that can win than as a party we would be in trouble. There are so many good Republican possibilities I can't really see it as a "Condi only" situation.
Not yet anyway.
Maybe she would be good for the VP slot.
fascist left, I'd say.
Dick Morris is an expert in two subjects, Bill Clinton and Hillary!. Bill Clinton is now irrelevant, but people still call Morris up to ask what he thinks about Hillary!'s political prospects. Look for him to short stroke talk of a Hillary! candidacy all the way to 2008 to maintain his own political relevance.
Okay--this is who I think it's going to be for 2008--the same guys that just toured the Tsunami areas--Colin Powell for pres and Jeb Bush for VP. Maybe not my personal choices, but choices I could live with and a team that I think could beat Hillary. I like Condi Rice but she wouldn't be a contender for president especially against Hillary. I also don't think that black Americans would be flocking over to vote for her--they stick with the Dems no matter what. Also, she's never held elective office and she's not married.
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