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Jobs Americans Won’t Do
nationalreview.com ^ | 1/7/04 | By Mark Krikorian

Posted on 01/05/2005 9:50:39 PM PST by paltz

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1 posted on 01/05/2005 9:50:40 PM PST by paltz
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To: paltz

I can make Americans do jobs. Deport the illegals and do away with welfare.

They'll have to do it or starve to death.


2 posted on 01/05/2005 9:52:42 PM PST by Crazieman (Islam. Religion of peace, and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: Crazieman

Yeah, all those jobs Americans won't do, are still being done where there are no large communities of illegal immigrants.

Fast food, restaurants, construction, field labor... it's all being done by those lazy arse U.S. citizens.

Who'd a thunk it?


3 posted on 01/05/2005 9:55:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: paltz
Today the president announces his plan for a vast new guestworker system, which would grant amnesty to millions of illegals currently in the United States, as well as import millions of new workers from abroad.

His amnesty scheme wont work and will only attract millions more. Of course, it's pretty safe to say that this is the plan.

4 posted on 01/05/2005 9:56:17 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: Crazieman

There you go, trying to make sense again.


5 posted on 01/05/2005 9:57:11 PM PST by shibumi (Sum Ergo Flatulo)
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To: Crazieman

Exactly--just what I was about to post. But one big economic problem is how to transport the millions of inner-city welfare recipients to the boondocks to do some of the agricultural work currently done by illegals. Transporting millions of people, housing them, and figuring out where to put their very young children once they're at the job site takes money, lots of it. Still, if the logistics could be worked out, you might have a good plan.


6 posted on 01/05/2005 9:57:40 PM PST by Capriole (the Luddite hypocritically clicking away on her computer)
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To: paltz

Where are these jobs Americans won't do coming from, are we creating thousands of them per month, to match the number of illegals breaking into our country? Somehow I find that hard to believe.


7 posted on 01/05/2005 9:58:21 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: paltz

There's only one job I can think of that Americans won't do... and that's kissing up to the UN!! (We'll leave that to the Euros)


8 posted on 01/05/2005 10:01:24 PM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: c-b 1

It seems to me what he's saying is if the the U.S. continues to rely on cheap illegal labor, we become complacent in many ways when it comes to becoming more efficient when advancing our labor force through technology and research (kinda like what the unions like to do to keep their jobs)


9 posted on 01/05/2005 10:03:09 PM PST by paltz
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To: DoughtyOne; Crazieman; paltz

This whole "They do the jobs Americans won't do" really ticks me off.

THere was an article in the Chicago Tribune a while back describing how one of the local construction unions was becoming almost all mexican. They got a foothold, brought brothers, cousins, etc.

These guys were making very good wages (50K+ if I recall)and I don't believe that there are no Americans to take those jobs.


10 posted on 01/05/2005 10:03:21 PM PST by AggieCPA (Howdy, Ags!)
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To: paltz

I dont want to spend money to have our leafs(sp?) raked. Love them illegals ...
Just kiddin!


11 posted on 01/05/2005 10:06:30 PM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: Capriole

Did someone have to cart your sorry butt somewhere to get you to work? Just kidding, but it's true. People who want work will find it. Jobs that need to be done, will attract workers if the wages are reasonable for the type of work that needs to be done.

Studies have been done on the work illegal aliens do in the fields, as if that's the only work they do these days. The cost of lettuce was projected to rise by $0.10 a head. The work component of field produce isn't as much of the store purchase price as most people think.

Middle-men make a lot of money off this stuff. So do the grocers. The field laborer isn't the usual 50% of the purchase price on this type of product.


12 posted on 01/05/2005 10:06:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: paltz

I'd rather pay $5 for Strawberries. At least I have the option to pay it or not. But forcing me to subsidize some businessman's cheap labor is wrong. WHY does no one mention this? What good is a guestworker program that continues to force taxpayers to foot the bill???

In the West, we're not talking hundreds per year, folks, we're talking thousands.

Give us a break! JOrge, you want to talk guestworker...also talk forcing the businessmen to pay a livable wage to them. We're tired of paying for it.


13 posted on 01/05/2005 10:08:44 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (We have the best politicians corporate money can buy)
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To: Crazieman

before welfare people worked for whatever they could get. now with welfare they pick and choose because they know food, rent, medical treatment and some spending cash is is the mail box monthly.

Send home the illegals and cut welfare and those jobs will be jobs for Americans again.


14 posted on 01/05/2005 10:09:22 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: AggieCPA

It's called "GREED". If I hire a criminal, pay them under the table, cheat my fellow citizens out of a job, the taxes that would ease their burden, and promote more freeloaders coming into the region, it's okay as long as I can bank more at the end of this week.

I have no idea why anyone would be so happy about destroying decent paying jobs in the U.S., but some people will buy onto anything if you can push their buttons just so.


15 posted on 01/05/2005 10:10:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: paltz

Number cruncher numbskulls make my teeth hurt.

This clymer talks about the percentage of the economy that is agriculture and off the top of his head says no big deal we can shit can that small percentage. No problem. So vegies are more expensive. No problem.

What the idiot does not understand is that vegies will rot in the field. No, they won't even get planted.

Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered. Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared. Autobody and fender work will not be done. Garbage will not be collected. Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys.

That's just some of the stuff I can think of. Of course I live in the West. If you vacumed up all the illegals our economy simply would not work. Deny it all you want. It is the case.


16 posted on 01/05/2005 10:12:53 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough)
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To: DoughtyOne

They will make any excuse, try to convience the people with BS lies. The eletist of both parties are guiltyt of this and we, the people are not buying it anymore. We are educated also, especially in the lies and deception of what is going on now. We are fools any longer!

I ant to see what this congress does and how strong they make the Immigration Policies and how strong they enforce them. They speak by talk is cheap, we have to see the ACTION.

The Control of the Borders and seaports is also hot on the list. Real Border control. They have spent so much of our tax dollars paying off South American Governments and farmes to grow other crops and not be involved in the growing of durgs, yet they will not buid a simple wall and fence to control our borders.

As long as our taxes are going to some other foreign government it a great policy, but when it is for the American Taxpayer, it just doesn't come up to the same mark.

Now they send our jobs to other countries, industrial jobs, even answering a phone at a stinking call center is being sent overseas. The call center for unemployment compensation for one of our own states is in India. What kind of a mess have these idiots gotten us into? You may not agree with me or I may sound on the edge of sanity, but I am sick and of being enslaved by all of these asses.


17 posted on 01/05/2005 10:13:22 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: mercy

The other half of the problem is our welfare state.

How do you shut down one when you have three generations wholly invested into it?

Come on .... answers!

Now I know you all here are independantly wealthy and don't care a whit whether or not you ever see your couple thou a month you are owed by social security but most folks really need it.

Without immigration there won't be enough paying into it for you to get your benefits.

But if you have a solution to this America waits with bated breath.


18 posted on 01/05/2005 10:18:27 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough)
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To: paltz

Years ago it was havesting food and cleaning homes. Then gardening. Then illegals started taking jobs teens traditionally had like selling and serving fast food. Now they've moved into construction jobs.


19 posted on 01/05/2005 10:19:23 PM PST by socal_parrot (Sego palms are actually cycads.)
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To: mercy
Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered. Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared. Autobody and fender work will not be done. Garbage will not be collected. Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys.

Come on mercy, you're living in the United States of America.

No need for gloom and doom.

20 posted on 01/05/2005 10:21:04 PM PST by primeval patriot
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