[mercy]

Number cruncher numbskulls make my teeth hurt.

This clymer talks about the percentage of the economy that is agriculture and off the top of his head says no big deal we can shit can that small percentage. No problem. So vegies are more expensive. No problem.

What the idiot does not understand is that vegies will rot in the field. No, they won't even get planted.

Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered. Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared. Autobody and fender work will not be done. Garbage will not be collected. Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys.

That's just some of the stuff I can think of. Of course I live in the West. If you vacumed up all the illegals our economy simply would not work. Deny it all you want. It is the case.

[mercy]

The other half of the problem is our welfare state.

How do you shut down one when you have three generations wholly invested into it?

Come on .... answers!

Now I know you all here are independantly wealthy and don't care a whit whether or not you ever see your couple thou a month you are owed by social security but most folks really need it.

Without immigration there won't be enough paying into it for you to get your benefits.

But if you have a solution to this America waits with bated breath.

[primeval patriot]

Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered. Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared. Autobody and fender work will not be done. Garbage will not be collected. Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys.

Come on mercy, you're living in the United States of America.

No need for gloom and doom.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered.

You're right mercy. Just the thought of enforcing our laws and securing our borders scares me to death.

The entire country would eventually starve to death, there would be food riots, store shelves would soon be empty. Ivy and weeds would grow over the tops of our homes in a matter of months. Water at the tap would eventually dry up. Our cars would fall apart, and nothing would work.

Most Americans would be found cowering in the corners of their homes, only to meet a brutal death without illegal aliens.

[usadave]

If you vacumed up all the illegals our economy simply would not work.

It would work if, while we are vacuuming up the illegal aliens, we let in more legal immigrants to take the places of the illegal aliens in the workforce.

[boris]

"Number cruncher numbskulls make my teeth hurt."

Flunked Economics 101, eh?

Any job which can potentially be performed by robots will eventually be performed by robots.

Offsetting the initial investment, robots do not go on "strike" (think Cesar Chavez), take days off, require medical benefits, family leave, workers' compensation, salary, raises, sick days, etc. They don't vote Democratic, either.

There are already commercial robots which can clean toilets.

Removal of zero-skill workers would simply accelerate the trend toward using robots in jobs which require no thinking, such as ditch digging, trash collecting, dish washing, etc.

--Boris

[FBD]

"What the idiot does not understand is that vegies will rot in the field. No, they won't even get planted.

-One word: mechanization.

This John Deere tractor here is guided by GPS. (My cousins are in farming, by the way.)



Cotton Pickers of the 1800’s:


The modern day cotton picker; (not ONE illegal immigrant required to run this machine!):

" Houses will not be build."

Nonsense,
I'm in construction, and I know many, many American citizens in every trade, from doing concrete foundations, framing, sheetrocking to roofing:
ALL American citizens of every ethnicity. EVERY DAMN ONE OF THEM.

Yards will not be upkept."

-That's a national emergency??? YARDWORK?
Mow your own damn lawn. Or are you above that?
By the way, I know plenty of Americans with yard work businsses. One in our area is a cop, and he does lawns in his off time. Ya think he's here illegaly?

"Street maintenance will cease."

B.S. again. I have a very good friend in the paving business. Same story as other constructione trades. these guys make very good money. American citizens want these HIGH paying jobs, many over $20.00 an hour.

"Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared."

Nonsense. I have friends who run all sorts of land clearing equipment. ALL Americans

"Autobody and fender work will not be done."

-Nonsense. I just had auto body work done, the guy has lived in this country all his life. The color of his skin is irrelevant also.

"Garbage will not be collected.

-Again, you ever heard of mechanization??? In our little town, none of the garbage collectors are even Hispanic, One of the guys running the automated garbage truck is a friend. He makes $18 bucks an hour. He grew up in this town.

"Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys.

-Really? I know of some Chinese resteraunts that will do just fine. But why don't you just come out and say illegals from Mexico. And by the way, my neighbor is Hispanic and owns a Mexican reteraunt; every one of his employees are citizens, or have their green cards. It can be done.

- What the kind of person doesn't have a clue about what American citizens do in this country...
Where do you live, anway?

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

If you vacumed up all the illegals our economy simply would not work.

Sorry, you're just totally wrong on this. Most of the unskilled jobs done by illegals are not time-critical, they are conveniences and services rendered and if they did not get done but we still had safe borders we would be better off. The time-critical unskilled work--such as produce harvesting--well, let the price rise to cover increased wages.

We need free-market economics, not bureaucrats at the USDA artificially controlling crop and dairy prices just like Russia's failed economic model. Unskilled seasonal retail workers are a longtime American tradition at Christmas. So during the summertime, let the 4H and Future Farmers of America and other kids (and adults!) work seasonally. Better an all-American The Grapes of Wrath than this Multicultural crap version of that book--with migrant ILLEGALS who clog and close down our medical systems and now are lining up for SOCIAL SECURITY as well.

The semiskilled jobs such as construction are time-critical and the unions, temp services and help-wanted ads exist in this country to recruit and place such workers.

I realize you seek to summarize the situation and so please understand I am NOT attacking you personally. However, those who live according to your premises show themselves:

(1) too focused on the short-term pleasures and not on necessary sacrifice (instant gratification and laziness vs. sacrifice;

(2) shortsighted, blind or ignorant about national security and economic terrorism; and

(3) willing to absolutely WRONG our Boy Scouts and other adolescents--our posterity--by letting their opportunities for youth jobs and character-building be STOLEN away by felonious aliens and the profiteers here who take advantage of them.

[gubamyster]

Number cruncher numbskulls make my teeth hurt.

If you could come up with some FACTS to refute CIS's well founded & well footnoted studies, then you might have some credibility. Otherwise your posts are nothing more than emotional rants.

[Age of Reason]

vegies will rot in the field. No, they won't even get planted.

Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered. Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared. Autobody and fender work will not be done. Garbage will not be collected. Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys.

Pay me enough, and I'll pick your veggies.

I hate desk work anyway. Besides exercise is good for us.

[MEGoody]

"What the idiot does not understand is that vegies will rot in the field. No, they won't even get planted. Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered. Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared. Autobody and fender work will not be done. Garbage will not be collected. Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys."

This has just about got to be the biggest pile of cow manure I have ever read. There are U.S. citizens doing this kind of work all over the country. We don't need illegal aliens to get this kind of work done.

[taxed2death]

"Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered. Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared. Autobody and fender work will not be done. Garbage will not be collected. Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys.

That's just some of the stuff I can think of. Of course I live in the West."

Wow, ther must be some real lazy people out west then....LOL...here in the East...Those jobs you mentioned are not "above" most US citizens.

"If you vacumed up all the illegals our economy simply would not work."


LOL...again...
what DO you folks out west do with all your free time? Drive around looking to hire more illegals?

Cry me a river.