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First-Hand Account of What Goes on Inside a Chula Vista Abortion Clinic (Warning Graphic Content)
San Diego News Notes ^ | January 2005 | MIGUEL VÁZQUEZ

Posted on 01/05/2005 12:47:52 PM PST by NYer

Yeni is a medical assistant and receptionist at the Clínica Médica para la Mujer de Hoy, an abortion clinic in Chula Vista. She's taking care of a customer, a very thin young Mexican, 28 years old, and of disheveled appearance. He's come to get information. He smiles nervously all the while. Yeni deals with him coldly. In Spanish, she greets him, "Hi, good afternoon."

Customer: "Is this where you do abortions?"

Yeni: "Yes."

Customer: "How much does it come out to? She's got about two-and-a half months."

Yeni: "If it hasn't been over three months, the cost is $300. The doctor's not coming in today. He won't be available until Saturday of next week, but what you don't want to happen is for it to go over three months."

Customer: "It's a little over two months."

Yeni: "You can come in a week from this coming Saturday. Come in with the patient and it'll be $300. Do you know her blood type?"

Customer: "No."

Yeni: "No? Well then, if it turns out her blood type is negative, there will be an additional $75 charge. Okay, I'm going to give you a number for you to call in case you want to make the appointment later on since we don't have a doctor right now. But if you want to make the appointment next week, this is the number for the clinic."

Customer: "I can make the appointment by phone?"

Yeni: "Uh-huh. You can make the appointment by phone, but for a week from this Saturday. This coming Saturday you won't be able to do it because we've got a lot of patients."

Customer: "Is it safe?"

Yeni: "It's very safe. It takes five minutes for the termination."

Customer: "Five minutes?"

Yeni: "Five Minutes."

Customer: "Is there any treatment, afterward?"

Yeni: "Yes, she needs to come back in two weeks for a checkup to make sure she's doing okay. We will prescribe medication for pain, and an antibiotic. It's very safe, but she needs to follow the treatment and come back in two weeks, okay?"

Customer: "Yes. Thank you."

Yeni: "Have a nice day."

This young man was her last customer for the day. It's almost dark outside, and the clinic is about to close. Yeni is staying to tidy the reception area. She agrees to an interview next week away from the clinic. What follows is her testimony from that interview.

"I started working at the clinic in 2002. I had just graduated as a medical assistant. I had applied at a lot of places, but I didn't get a job because I didn't have any experience. Then someone told me that Sonia, an acquaintance of mine, needed someone. When I talked to her, she made it clear that it had to do with a clinic where they do abortions, but that they do other things, too. My goal was to gain at least six months' to a year's experience in the medical field. Sonia told me to go to the clinic to try to help out the doctor, and that if I couldn't take it, it was no problem, they would have me do something else. I didn't like the idea, even though having an abortion isn't something I'm unfamiliar with. I myself had an abortion a year before. Sonia had the same thing happen to her, though it wasn't as voluntary as mine. Her parents took her to get the abortion.

"I agreed to try it out," Yeni continued. "The first time I helped the doctor, I almost fainted. I couldn't see, and I couldn't hear. I was overwhelmed by the blood and the girl's screams. They took me out of there and I told Sonia that I couldn't do it, but they advised me to try it once more. By the second abortion I found that I could deal with it. The weeks went by, and even though the job is ugly, I was learning a lot about medicine.

"I made up my mind to withstand the work at the clinic until I got a little experience I could apply somewhere else. Then came the abortions of babies who were five or six months, and it became impossible for me to continue. After three months, I resigned. But the pressure to pay my bills, all my debts, and my situation as a single mother, forced me to go back to work at the clinic.

"To this day, I have left and returned three times," she said, but added, "I myself can't believe that I'm here for the money. That's what is so absurd. I make $8.50 an hour here. But because I wanted a career as a medical assistant, I stayed."

Yeni checked a small notepad where she has made a few notes for the interview. In this little notebook she has written important points she wants to mention, "So," as she put it, "that it can be of use to someone."

She then continued her account. "At first I thought most of the patients would be young, single mothers, but it's not that way. The great majority are married women; say around 29 years-old, the typical woman who doesn't want another child. The ones who are separated, or don't have a man in their life, also come to us. We hardly get really young ones. I think that younger girls appreciate becoming a mother more than the ones who are on their second or third pregnancy.

"We get patients on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays. On average, five or six women come in each day. However, since the doctor hasn't been able to come in until tomorrow, which is Saturday, we'll be getting 16 patients," she said.

Yeni then explained what her work entails.

"Basically, what I do is to assist the doctor in the terminations [abortions]. After the patient fills out the forms and waits for her turn, I lead her into the private room where the procedure is carried out. I tell the patient to take her clothes off from the waist down. I tell her where she needs to sit and ask her to wait for the doctor.

"As soon as the doctor arrives, he has her lie down for the ultrasound to see how many months she is pregnant. If the baby is less than three months, the abortion can be done the same day.

"The doctor sits in front of the patient. The patient is lying there conscious — as if she were about to give birth. I hand the doctor the local anesthesia and I hand him the instruments as needed. I am seeing everything.

"Our doctor is quite old. He's 84 and uses an antiquated method." (The doctor to whom Yeni is referring is Dr. Phillip Rand. On Sept. 29, the California Medical Board suspended his license to practice medicine, noting that Rand is "incapable of practicing medicine safely.")

"First he puts the mirror in place. Then he measures the depth of the uterus. Next he opens the neck of the uterus with a dilator to make it easier. Then he introduces a small rod with an abrasive ring at the end. The ring isn't sharp, but the scraping hurts a lot of women and they cry or scream.

"When the baby is less than three months, the baby disintegrates completely. When the doctor feels that the baby has been dislodged completely, he introduces something similar to a straw. The exterior opening of the straw connects to a vacuum. Then he vacuums up everything that has broken apart. All that he vacuums goes into a jar. You see blood, and bits and pieces of tissue that look like chopped meat. It all comes out in pieces.

"This is the procedure for eight weeks or less, " she said. "When they're about 12 weeks, then the doctor takes the baby out with forceps. He takes the baby out in pieces. He checks each part and he places each one in a tray down below. When he finishes the procedure, I have to drain everything. We drain it to separate body parts from blood. We place all the parts in a jar that goes to the laboratory.

"It's impressive how well-defined they are. You can't believe what you are seeing. You see perfect little hands, tinier than those of a Barbie doll. You can see intestines, tiny ribs, their little faces, and their tiny squashed heads. You can distinguish among the parts if the baby was a boy or girl.

"It makes me so sad to see the jars. It's very hard for me to do all this. To see all that falls on the floor, or for example, to remove a tiny foot from the instruments. A girl who worked here told me that she came home with a tiny foot stuck to her uniform, close to her shoulder. She, of course, hadn't noticed until her husband told her."

Yeni continued getting off her chest what happens inside the clinic: "When the patient is less than three months pregnant, we have to prepare her so that she can come back the next day when she is dilated. The really large terminations are impressive. I have seen three fetuses come out whole. In one instance, you could see the little hand coming out of the uterus. The little hand was moving. But the most impressive thing was the baby that came out breathing. That time, the doctor got sick.

"The girl lived in Tijuana. They put dilators in her for two days. The baby was five and a half months. She didn't have a car and came walking to the clinic. Then it seemed like she was going through labor. When the doctor started to work on her, the baby came out without any help. The child came out breathing and died right there. After a minute, he changed color. He turned purple. The assistants felt very bad. They didn't want to put him in the receptacle. The doctor had to do it. All of us were very affected by it.

"Later, I saw the doctor in his office. His gaze was lost and fixed on the wall. Afterward, he was on the phone with someone telling them what had happened."

Yeni pauses. She wants to continue talking, but it's as if she has a lump in her throat. The interview took a bitter and sad turn.

"Since a few days ago," she said, "a substitute doctor has been coming in. He's younger and has a different technique. He doesn't scrape the uterus, he just uses the vacuum. Last Sunday, he couldn't take it any more because we did some rather large terminations — around four months. He used a technique I hadn't seen. He divided the ultrasound screen in two parts and used an apparatus during the entire procedure. Usually, what you see with the ultrasound is the child sucking his finger, or playing, but on this occasion when the doctor began vacuuming, you could see the baby was moving as if he hurt because it was pulling him or tearing something off. It was horrible, horrible.

"During the procedure, I feel as if they were doing it to me. I want it to finish quickly. I don't want to see it, and yet I have to see it. It's as if it were a penance for the abortion I had myself. With every patient I relive the same thing, and I feel the same thing. It's as if they're doing it to me again. It's as if it were so that I never forget, that I never forget what happened. And it hurts. Every day I wake up thinking, 'I have to go work there again.'

"When I started working at the clinic, Sonia and I made up our minds to help people. We were going to try to persuade them not to get an abortion. We often tried to secretly do a good deed. We'd ask the girls, 'Are you sure?' We would tell them to think it over carefully. Sometimes we would tell them it was going to hurt them terribly. We scared them. A few here and there would regret it and not go through with it. We even helped a few of them, who arrived under pressure from their mother or their husband, to escape out the back door.

"But this attitude of helping out was off and on for short periods of time. This is because you see how, when a patient has made up her mind, there's not much you can do. That has discouraged us. What's more, I would tell the ones who got an abortion, 'Be careful; make sure you don't have to go through this again. Look at me; I did it and it has really affected me.' According to me, I was providing them with therapy. That has passed in me. I don't feel sorry for them, as I did at first. Now they make me angry.

"In most of the cases we handle there is no really pressing need. We used to ask them what their situation was, but I don't ask them any more because they're the same dumb responses. I'm angry that they come to get an abortion so unashamed, joking, and laughing. One that was in the reception area told me, clowning around, 'Kick me, why don't you, so it comes out.'

"When I did it [had an abortion], I was totally in shock. I can't justify it, but here I see almost all of them come in as if they were getting a facial. They're very selfish. One 38-year-old woman told me, 'It's either the baby, or it's my daughter's quinceañera (A traditional Mexican debutant party for 15-year-old girls). It's not my daughter's fault that I got pregnant.' Some of them have gotten mad at us because they're seven months pregnant, and we can no longer do it. We have had women who come in as patients and later bring their daughter. We have patients who come back here in three months. There's one patient who has had eight abortions. Even the doctor said the tenth one will be free. Another one came because she was going to get married and wanted the abortion before the honeymoon.

"One woman was afraid and said, 'Oh my God, please don't let it hurt, don't let it hurt.' Sonia answered, 'Ma'am, you leave God out of these things.'

"Others ask, 'How did it come out?', like they want to see it. I don't answer them. I only say to myself 'Don't worry, the baby came out in pieces. What do you want to see? The baby in pieces?' After the abortion, they'll ask, 'Can I go to a party? Can I drink alcohol?'

"I can't help being angry — at the patient, at the doctor, and at myself. It's useless to be here. We aren't doing anything good. I'm very mad at myself. I feel wasted away. I feel as if I'm not the same person."

At another time in her life, Yeni was part of a youth group at a Tijuana parish. Imbedded in her mind are many happy moments, innocent and full of hope. One recent event has made her think long and hard about the meaning of her life.

"Three days after it opened, we went to see Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ. Believe me, it was very hard. When we saw how they beat Jesus and the instruments they used, we compared it to the instruments the doctor used. I saw everything we did in the clinic in that movie — so much blood spilled. I couldn't stop crying in the theater. I also saw the devil portrayed as a fetus. I wanted to die. The following day, I told Sonia that we had to stop working at the clinic. She also saw the movie and we remembered that in the picture they said 'He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.' We were very afraid because just a few months before, the manager of the clinic was killed by her husband. We felt something was going to happen to us because of what we were doing", she said.

"Before my abortion, and before working here, I wasn't afraid of death. Whenever I thought of the day God would come for me, even while knowing I have sinned, with all of my sins, I wasn't afraid. Now, I live with that fear. I feel that I don't want to die because I wonder how I would face God if I should see him. I don't have peace.

"Last week, I visited my brother and wanted to hug my nephew. The child was crying almost hysterically. My sister-in-law said the child was scared because he felt I have the devil inside because I kill babies for a living. I was really angry at my sister-in-law, but I felt it was true to some extent."

Yeni wants to leave her present situation and has started to take the first steps.

"A few days ago, I went to see a guy from the church group that I used to go to. He told me that he was happy that I worked for God and that I was doing well. I felt as if I were choking! I told him I worked at something that I had to leave before I can get closer to God again. He told me to talk to a priest, but I'm afraid. I can't see how I can in all conscience walk into a church. I know the trouble that I'm in. I know the situation I'm in, and what it is I need to do.

"I applied for a job where they take care of the elderly in San Diego. I told the woman who interviewed me about the type of work I do at the clinic, and I pleaded with her to help me get out of here. I told her my hope was with this new job. She was very kind, and she said she would do all she can. No matter what happens, if I don't get the job, I'm going to look for a job in whatever I can. It doesn't matter if it's not as a medical assistant. I'm fed up with the situation here.

"Sonia also had an interview somewhere else. It is for a totally different job. She told me that when she was walking back from her interview, she was telling God, 'My dear God, please, you don't want me to return to the clinic. Give me this job. Please give it to me.' She also told me, 'You'll see; they're going to give us those jobs.'

"We're both sick of our jobs, but for one reason or another, we're still here. I agreed to talk to La Cruz because I think it's necessary that people know the horrors that we have experienced here. Both of us feel a great need to do something good to start compensating God for everything we have done in this job."

Yeni said she wanted to make one important comment before concluding the interview:

"I want to add that some religious groups deliver pamphlets to women before they enter the clinic. I've seen that they look at those pamphlets that show the formation of a baby week after week. Some reconsider and leave the clinic. They are few, but sometimes it happens."

Yeni and Sonia left their job at the clinic a week after this interview, which was conducted on September 27, 2004. The woman who was their supervisor is considering resigning, as well. She has told this to the coordinator of one of the two prayer groups that get together in front of the clinic. They continue to pray for the clinic to be closed permanently.


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To: All; kerberos3; Salvation; InvisibleChurch; EsclavoDeCristo; xzins; Knock3Times; Lunatic Fringe
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81 posted on 01/06/2005 8:13:36 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

There are no words to describe how I feel right now. None.


82 posted on 01/06/2005 8:22:29 AM PST by arizonarachel (Prayer works!)
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To: Howlin
I post live threads, period. I don't influence anybody, bub.

I would tend to agree, "bubette"!

83 posted on 01/06/2005 9:21:30 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

But just in case...


84 posted on 01/06/2005 9:23:27 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

Well, then, why are you so damn intimidated by me?

Go away, you troll.


85 posted on 01/06/2005 9:25:38 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Howlin
Howlin, it is MUCH more likely that it is YOU who is the troll...it is not me who supports moderate Republican causes and RINOs...I would even venture a guess that you are a died-in-the-wool Democrat who thinks she is going to fragment the Republican party by seeking to foment a split between conservatives and moderates on certain social issues such as abortion and stem cell research.

The last election should have shown you that the handwriting is firmly on the CONSERVATIVE side of the Republican wall...

86 posted on 01/06/2005 9:31:39 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

Thanks for that post; it's always nice to see somebody put their lunacy in print.



87 posted on 01/06/2005 9:33:30 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Howlin
Actually, the "lunacy" on the part of RINOs is that they cannot accept that abortion is murder, no matter the reason.

Perhaps "lunacy" is the wrong word; I would substitute the phrase "spiritual blindness".

88 posted on 01/06/2005 9:39:47 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

I believe in the 3 exceptions.

And I don't care what you kind of "conservative" thinks of me.


90 posted on 01/06/2005 9:55:43 AM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Howlin
L2L (post # 86 -- Howlin, it is MUCH more likely that it is YOU who is the troll..) does not seem too perceptive! You...... a spy, a double agent all these years.... how can one be so completely wrong? ROFL!

;-)

*****

Btw, do you happen to know if there will be a live thread on the "Boxer Rebellion" (Ohio vote) coming this afternoon?

91 posted on 01/06/2005 9:57:07 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: Myrddin

I love Chula Vista.
Did you know it is the fastest growing city
in the nation right now?
Property values have skyrocketed,
at least in Hilltop.

Hope you're happy in Idaho... it's beautiful there.


92 posted on 01/06/2005 11:10:18 AM PST by b9 (Happy New You)
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To: doodlelady
I attended Hazel Goes Cook Elementary, Hilltop Junior High and Hilltop High School. Graduated in 1973.

My son is taking advantage of the high growth rate by selling lots of real estate in Chula Vista. Eastlake was built on the area that I used for off-road motorcycling in high school. The strip mall at I-805 and H street was built on top of one of the best hill climbing spots in the area. The bikers called it "Peppertree" in honor of the tree growing half way up the hill. I think the hill and the tree are still visible behind the strip mall.

Property prices have skyrocketed. I don't confuse high price with high value. $400,000 buys you a dwelling in a high crime neighborhood. $700,000 is the floor for the quality of neighborhood I would tolerate.

Value is a measure of quality of goods received for the money paid. I'm sitting in a 3900 sq ft house on 1/3 acre with a nice view. Every house in the neighborhood is a minimum of 3500 sq ft. Most are closer to 5000 sq ft. Low crime. No gangs. No traffic. Recently appraised at $185,000. That is a good value.

My last house in Mira Mesa is now priced at $400,000. It is 1334 sq, 4 br, 2 ba on 1/4 acre. Problems with Hispanic and Asian gangs. Graffiti. Gunshots at night. Very heavy traffic. Heavy crowding in local retail stores and restaurants. The neighborhood is over 50% renters who don't care for the property as most owner/occupants do.

My mom's house in Chula Vista is 1700 sq ft, 3 br, 2 ba. Recently appraised at $400,000. Drug deals happen often in front of her driveway. Local gangs place graffiti on her nice pink block wall. The traffic on L street enroute to/from Southwestern College causes lots of noise.

93 posted on 01/06/2005 12:08:25 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

For heaven's sake, if it's so awful, why do you
leave your poor mother there?


94 posted on 01/06/2005 12:36:20 PM PST by b9 (Happy New You)
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To: doodlelady
For heaven's sake, if it's so awful, why do you leave your poor mother there?

My father just died last year. She owns the house free and clear. It has been her home for the last 44 years. Trying to move her anywhere else in San Diego would cause her immediate financial insolvency. As is, her financial condition is stable for more years than she will probably live. She just turned 77 Jan 2nd. Her neighbor across the street checks on her daily. My sister lives out by Valhalla High school. She visits twice a week.

Mom's fixed income and the protection afforded by Proposition 13 are key reasons to stay put. The house priced at $400,000 was purchased for $16,000 in 1961. Her annual property taxes are about 10% of what most people pay for a single bedroom apartment EACH MONTH in the San Diego area.

95 posted on 01/06/2005 1:05:26 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

She must be very grateful for her home.
Your father provided well for her.
I'm sorry for your loss.


96 posted on 01/06/2005 1:43:44 PM PST by b9 (Happy New You)
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To: NYer; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

Which type of killing method would you choose? Here are your choices:

1. Dismemberment and Evacuation
2. Induction
3. RU-4-86
4. Dilation & Extraction
5. New method created from the fraudulent Ban of the Partial Birth Abortion

If you were to choose the first one on the list, Dismemberment and Evacuation, you may want to ask for pain management since it will be very painful and a very long drawn out death. This method is outlawed on animals. The name pretty much describes what happens. The so called doctor will bring in a very sharp tool into your world and start by cutting off your arms and legs before he gets to your trunk. He then extracts the pieces and puts them back together in order to make sure he removed them all.

If that does not appeal to you then maybe the Induction method will. This one is even more painful and takes even longer. You may need to beg for pain medicine because you will need it. It all starts when the practitioner brings a syringe full of very salty water into your world. I like swimming in the ocean so I might choose this method, especially if I didn’t read the fine print. The fine print exposes that this salt water is so concentrated that it will burn your whole body on the outside, then you breathe it in and it burns your lungs and stomach. Agony lasts 6-8 hours and you could be born alive after going down the birth canal scraping your burns. One girl,
Gianna Jessen, survived this death sentence. She is now about 25 years old. Luckily she had a novice nurse who didn’t know she was supposed to finish Gianna off. She called 911 instead.

Your next is the RU-486, which stands for, “Are you for deletion?” This could be the one you may choose if you want to really drag it out in hopes of intervention. You will be slowly poisoned to death so expect nausea, vomiting and severe abdominal pain. This will continue for about a week.

Until recently you could have picked the Dilation and Extraction. More commonly called the “Partial Birth Abortion.”

 

"I want to add that some religious groups deliver pamphlets to women before they enter the clinic. I've seen that they look at those pamphlets that show the formation of a baby week after week. Some reconsider and leave the clinic. They are few, but sometimes it happens."

This procedure works along with a lot of prayer, we are dealing with many demons.  I have found that giving the women medical facts sheets along with pictures of children in utero along with ultrasounds helps the best.  Telling them about risks of breast cancer, bleeding, infection, depression and suicide helps. You often times have to talk quickly because they are told on the phone that we'll be out there and not to take any literature.  Many mills have court injunctions so we can't get close enough to speak to the women entering the mill.

97 posted on 01/06/2005 4:12:30 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 125,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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To: NYer

I'm gonna hurl.


98 posted on 01/06/2005 4:29:06 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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